Hi Chmanzi, First I will say that I used Twitter to publicly post and tag the situation. Specifically #scam #paypalscam #USPS #USPSscam. I will warn you now, @Paypal on Twitter will publicly post to you immediately and ask for details in PM. This is to save face to the outside world. Once you jump through the hoops, they send the canned response that case is closed and not to your advantage. When they do that, post a screenshot of that as your Twitter reply to the overly kind public attempt to help you. This pulls the wool off. You will have to play this game several times. Know the law. The shipping agreement is between YOU and the shipper. That’s why PayPal tries to wash their hands of this and send you to the shipper (the one who ripped you off) to resolve this. In knowing the law, when you call USPS, ask for confirmation that the package from XYZ went to YOUR EXACT ADDRESS. If they say no, then ASK what address. USPS can’t give you the address legally so they won’t. Then ask for the GPS coordinates. Legally can’t give you that either because it’s NOT YOUR ADDRESS. And if it WAS your address, they would, right? This is your proof that they did not deliver to you AT YOUR HOUSE, AT THE ADDRESS you gave the shipper which is part of the agreement (aka the contract you exchanged money for promise of goods). Therefore, the shipper broke the contract. And PayPal backs that seller/shipper up so they need to cough up the money and go after them. With USPS, they won’t tell you the address because YOU DO NOT have a contract with them. The person who asked for a paid for shipping (the seller) did. That’s why legally they can’t tell you. Now go look up the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). The UCC states that in the world of e-commerce, there is contract law. In the contract, when you buy online, unless otherwise stated, the shipper sets and is therefore responsible for the requested goods to arrive at the requested destination. Not your neighbor’s house, not a block over, not at CVS — your specific stated address (hence the GPS). Force these places (PayPal and USPS) to admit that they do not have this proof. PayPal will continually send you USPS delivery confirmation. Look closely at that confirmation . . . Is your COMPLETE address there? Or is it just city and zip (I bet just this). Demand a GPS code as valid proof. City and zip don’t mean squat! PS. I just read your post again after I posted — remember! You don’t have a contract with USPS. You didn’t mail anything! You didn’t pay them to mail anything! They can’t open a claim and if they do to appease you, it will be for sure denied. What they give you is what I mentioned above — that they cannot prove that it went to your address. And so you understand, when I asked USPS (really nice lady), I questioned her until I got her to admit it wasn’t my address — this is what you need. Unfortunately they won’t put that in writing but now you make PayPal prove with GPS (but they can’t so), you win! Update us when your done!!
