Paypal invoice international return for faulty item. Replacement expected

geedon
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Hi, I'm UK based and made paid a lot of money via a Paypal invoice for a computer (£12k). It was shipped to me by a 3rd party not the reseller/invoice sender directly.

Unfortunately, it turned up damaged and only partially functional and needs to be returned. I've been communicating with the seller, via discord, to resolve the issue and to be fair they have been responding well. However, each time I make a request for information from the US based reseller, he needs to talk to his supplier in Hong Kong so there's significant delays.

I'm told that the device must be returned, most likely to the supplier in Hong Kong and, initially, at my expense. Though the reseller tells me they will refund this cost and pay for the inconvenience. My concern are as follows: -

1) I'm looking for a replacement rather then just a refund so I'm reluctant to simply initiate a paypal complaint for a refund. Do I need to worry that there is a time scale limit here? I assume that Paypal would prefer that I deal with the supplier without their involvement if possible and he is replying. 

2) It has been days since it arrived the days are ticking up (delivered 31/10/22) and so we're on the 6th day already due to communication delays. I worry I'm going to lose insurance cover for the transaction with the delays.

3) It is highly likely that the supplier is going to ask me to send this to Hong Kong, to his supplier, rather than the reseller's address in the US. If I do this could this be a problem as far a Paypal transaction insurance is concerned?

4) If I send the device back, what is to stop them saying that I sent an empty box back? I can take pictures and the weight is an indicator, but I've heard of horror stories about this kind of thing and that Paypal don't spend much time on these kinds of issues. but this is a lot of money we're talking about and worse yet, it's China.

 

5) The reseller says they will refund the shipping costs and sending me compensation but what's to stop them saying no.

 

6) I had to pay import duty on the initial import and if I send it back and get another there will be more costs, I assume.

 

7) Maybe I should just initiate the complain procedure now despite getting reasonable feedback from the supplier? Just to protect myself? Does this add extra costs or is this likely to reduce scope for them sending me a replacement for the same price (as in if it costs them it might ruin remaining good will).

Apologies for all the questions but I'm a little new to this side of things and it's a lot of money to me and I see a lot of scope to get **bleep** over. 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

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PayPal_RachelK
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Hi @geedon,

 

Welcome to the PayPal Community and thank you for your post!
 

I am sorry to hear the item you received is damaged. I know this must be frustrating. We would always advise you to work this out with the seller directly, however, if you are unable to do so that is where PayPal disputes process can help.

 

Buyers can open a PayPal dispute within 180 days from the date you made the payment, so you don't need to worry about your timeframe at the moment. The dispute type you would need to open would be, Significantly Not As Described

 

When a Significantly Not As Described dispute is granted in the buyers (you) favor, they would be required to return the item at their own cost. The buyer would be liable for the return costs. If the seller does not reimburse you for the shipping costs as promised, you would not be covered under PayPal's policy for this. 

 

PayPal's Dispute process, allows buyers to open disputes to receive a refund for not receiving an item, or the item they received being not as described. As you mentioned you are looking for a replacement and not a refund, I would suggest you try work this out with the seller directly. 

 

If you cannot come to an agreement with them, you can always open a dispute following the steps here

 

I hope this helps!

 

- Rachel 

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