@terese2 wrote:
Excellent post, Scottsongs! I am so happy to see more and more people ignoring the Paypal apologists and just speaking the truth about Paypal's sleaziness. Greed drives them, they are unethical, and they have the poorest customer service I have ever encountered.
Say it loud, say it often, and make sure to tell everyone you can WHY you are leaving Ebay and PAyapl. Access to a credit card is all Paypal would need tocounter bad sellers. All of this baloney about why they "need" a 21 day hold is a smokescreen for their greed.
Definitely not playing with a full deck ! If you sell on eBay at all, you know that if he shipped to another address to another person, that is not covered by the protection. If he printed the label on Paypal, it would have shown at the top that it is not okay to ship.
Honestly, therese, if you think that was an excellent post coming from, sad to say, a seller who does not know how to protect himself, then you know nothing about selling or you would never have said this was a great post. As a matter of fact, your response didn't make a bit of sense based on what he said, since he literally dug his own grave so to speak by shipping other than to the person and the address who bought it. Jeez, read the policies. Actually, you don't even have to read the policies to know that. It is just common sense.
Also, how many times do the other sellers here have to tell you that the hold is not set in stone as 21 days. You just ignore the truth and say what you want to say and it is just like a politician who makes bold statements but doesn't have an ounce of factual information or support to back them up in addition to not addressing the actual question or topic, but rather skirting around it so to get in the jabs, which is all you have to offer and all you know how to do.
Other sellers, this person is only here to try to get you to leave eBay and Paypal. If you do that, you will actually lose money, not just have it delayed. Take this to heart. I have tried different sites, even my own website which I promote, and my sales come from eBay. I can count on x number of dollars each month something I could not do on ETSY or even on my website. I have put a few things on Bonanza, but with no success. They just aren't big enough yet to draw the buyers eBay does. Now, if you think this is a lie like Terese states we apologists are dishing out to you, then you just bog yourself down even more with her rantings. She would have made a great Suffragette shouting out in rallies and just getting everything out about that comes to mind. Maybe some of you remember your history to know what that is. Maybe a good Suffragette, but not a good one to try to shut down Paypal. The sellers here will come and go and the ones who do come back either haven't tried to make it work for them, but a few of them did come back to announce their holds were lifted. Some vowed to accept it and try it the way Paypal_Andy suggested, and since they have not been back, it must be working for them. This thread has made more sellers continue to sell than it has made give up. Quitting is just not in some peoples' nature like it is in others, the ones who quit, rant, rave, curse, look up big words in the dictionary to impress so to be taken seriously. But, the good sellers, the serious ones who came on, complained, took suggestions from those of us who want to really help you to keep selling and making money are selling and it is working for them. Sure, some adjustments have to be made, but is everyone here a die hard conformist to a certan way who cannot accept change. Only narrow minded people do not accept change. They go with the flow, figure out how to make something work for them and adjust to the change. Remember, all new people signing up for selling now have this hold imposed on them, and do you see them on here complaining. They accept it for the way it is knowing this is a large business who is not going to change a policy for a few complainers on one forum.
