HORRIBLE IDEA TO HOLD FUNDS FOR 21 DAYS!!!

gearhed78
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  Holding funds from sellers until the buyer leaves feedback is the worst idea EVER! Since when does Paypal become an authority on buyer satisfaction?? A smooth transaction is all that I wanted from Paypal. If they are going to hold funds, then they should make it very clear BEFORE you use them!  Keeping my money in their account for 21 days is a HUGE disadvantage of using Paypal. Stick to transferring funds,not trying to be a satisfaction authority!

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Trapstone
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We've just had the same 21 day hold imposed.

 

We've used EBay once, to sell off an item of IT surplus. The transaction went smoothly, no complaints, no chargebacks.

 

We uploaded a tracking number.  Delivery was completed just fine.

 

Most of our business customers use BACS/bank transfer to pay but we have PayPal for the occasional user who prefers it, so our PayPal transaction volume is low - but so what?

 

With PayPal we also have a history of zero complaints, zero chargebacks, 100% delivery.  We're a UK registered limited company, we're VAT registered, we have a verified regsitered office and our bank account is verified on PayPal, etc..  There's really no ambiguity over our identity as an authentic business seller.

 

We simply cannot fathom why this action was taken; it seems to be done on the automated whim of some broken algorithm (I personally doubt this was a human decision).

 

We can't afford to use a payment processor that behaves in this way.  Almost all our transactions are completed from order to delivery within 7 working days. The cash-flow impact of having revenue held for 21 days for these transactions on our cost-of-goods-sold accounting is unacceptable.

 

Revenue from previous sales helps fund our supplies for the next round of sales.  We're not comfortable dispatching product and then waiting to see if we get paid 21+ days later!

 

Fortunately the low transaction volumes mean the impact is currently small but its as much a matter of trust and confidence, as anything else. For example, our account will be "reviewed" every 35 days.  Really?  Exactly how will be reviewed and by whom?  By what criteria?  What delta must be corrected to ensure the next "review" is favourable?

 

While the observations made by 7yearseller may be correct, this does not in any way excuse or justify the behaviour.

 

"Because we can" is never a justification for poor customer service.

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terese2
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You are exactly right, Trapstone.  The so-called Paypal algorithm is a complete myth.  The operating algorithm used by Paypal, sadly, is "what can we get away with?".

 

There is something wrong, absolutely unethical,  about enacting a rapacious policy simply because you can get away with it.  And no amount of insane hoop-jumping to "get Paypal to release your hold" is going to make that right.

 

Scores of people on this forum have reported the same response as we to this dreadful hold policy.  Maybe enough so that Paypal will rescind it; maybe not.  But as more payment processors enter this niche, and more auction sites are doing, we may see competition arise that will force Paypal to change, or force it under. 

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They only give you BS story or making up stuff without name or detail information. Paypal always said Seller Protection but they don't have authority or power over Charge Back by Bank. They do not provide any evidence to help seller during charge back by bank and enforce buyer return items back to sellers. They only know how to take money from sellers.

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bluntmanchronic
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@Temp20230112EA wrote:

They only give you BS story or making up stuff without name or detail information. Paypal always said Seller Protection but they don't have authority or power over Charge Back by Bank. They do not provide any evidence to help seller during charge back by bank and enforce buyer return items back to sellers. They only know how to take money from sellers.



Sounds like a personal problem to me.

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FireBot
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I was also given the 21 day holding period today.  I've had to give one refund over the lifetime of my account due to a package lost in the mail.  Even that went smoothly.  Feedback score on eBay is great.  The only real blemish is an inquiry PayPal opened on Tuesday into a sale that happened the same day, which I have not received any information for as to why the inquiry was opened to begin with.  It can't be any wrong doing on my part as the inquiry was opened with in 10 minutes of the eBay sale happening and the money ending up in my account.  Barely enough time for me to notice I had a sale.

 

As if times aren't hard enough, now I can't even access the money I have when I need it.  We shall see if they have a good compromise come Monday.  I can only hope they do, since there really isn't a solid alternative to PayPal that I can get all of my clients to switch to.  So I would hate being taken for a ride because of that.

 

Overall, I'm disappointed more than anything.

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OnlineTech
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This weekend we had 120 orders on Amazon and guess what two persons phone to buy on Ebay/Paypal and we told them the Paypal Story and they went to buy on Amazon.

 

Paypal has not even responded to our complaint and THIS IS HOW EBAY/PAYPAL WORKS AND WE ENCOURAGE ALL SELLERS TO SWIFT TO AMAZON AND PLAY.COM WHERE YOU SPEAK WITH REAL PEOPLE BASED IN UK.

 

PAYPAL SERVICE IS THE LOWEST WE KNOW SO FAR AND JUST CHECK AS WELL HOW EBAY IS DOING TO NON-BUSINESS CUSTOMERS (EXCESSIVE COMMISSION WHEN ORDINARY CUSTOMERS WANT TO SELL A PRODUCT)

 

Paypal should be investigated by the Commission Competition as they make it compulsory for us to have paypal to list on Ebay. We should all join together as sellers to write a letter to the Commission Competition and the Office of Fair Trading to investigate Ebay/Paypal.

 

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Paypal hold $800 for over 150 days due to one recent dispute. Moreover, they are going to hold or reserve (paypal term) 10% of each transaction for over 60 days. Now, i don't have money to buy stuff or doing anything. Furthermore, their merchanise risk specialist sounds like Goldman Sachs and none of them actually sells items on ebay. They talk like business man without a degree. They pulled a punch of data on my ebay and paypal account using computer statictis data and make a lot of BS how other ebay buyers doing better than me. Blah Blah Blah. Paypal sounds like Payscam or PayShXt.

 

I am going to amazon.com.

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the_grot_shoppe
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can you sell individual items on Amazon?

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the_grot_shoppe
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Who does payapl think they are? This is MY money that I earned! If *I* have a problem with a buyer then *I* will deal with it. They have no right what so ever to hold MY money!

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bluntmanchronic
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@the_grot_shoppe wrote:

Who does payapl think they are? This is MY money that I earned! If *I* have a problem with a buyer then *I* will deal with it. They have no right what so ever to hold MY money!


oh but they do and they will


 

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