Don't use this **bleep** service.

methanar
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I was scammed by a guy of 50 euros, he even proceeded to taunt me and brag about how I was stupid enough to fall for his trick.

 

If this **bleep**ing doesn't incriminate him and prove that he scammed me then I don't know what does.

 

here is the entirety of the chat log.

 

[7/6/2012 6:27:22 PM] Greg  : Hello.
[7/6/2012 6:27:30 PM] Greg  : i have the acc you want
[7/6/2012 6:27:36 PM] Greg  : Na , most of the champs
[7/6/2012 6:27:41 PM] Greg  : except new ones
[7/6/2012 6:27:44 PM] Greg  : like hecarim, draven
[7/6/2012 6:27:51 PM] Greg  : 1500 elo
[7/6/2012 6:28:08 PM] Brandon  : could you give me a lolking link?
[7/6/2012 6:28:13 PM] Brandon  : as in lolking.net
[7/6/2012 6:28:46 PM] Greg  : yes 1 sec
[7/6/2012 6:30:39 PM] Greg  : back from wc
[7/6/2012 6:30:47 PM] Greg  : okay you need my lolking link?
[7/6/2012 6:30:50 PM] Brandon  : yeah
[7/6/2012 6:32:19 PM] Brandon  : http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/478939
[7/6/2012 6:32:20 PM] Brandon  : is this you
[7/6/2012 6:32:28 PM] Greg  : yep
[7/6/2012 6:33:19 PM] Brandon  : alright, how much would you be wanting in usd
[7/6/2012 6:33:27 PM] Greg  : hmm
[7/6/2012 6:33:29 PM] Brandon  : http://www.xe.com/ucc/
[7/6/2012 6:33:29 PM] Brandon  : \
[7/6/2012 6:33:33 PM] Brandon  : if you need currency conversion
[7/6/2012 6:33:47 PM] Greg  : ty
[7/6/2012 6:34:00 PM] Brandon  : I'm not actually american but usd is just the prefered currency for most people in these trades
[7/6/2012 6:34:10 PM] Greg  : i think maybe 50 usd
[7/6/2012 6:34:19 PM] Greg  : but we can negotiate if this is too much
[7/6/2012 6:35:03 PM] Greg  : so?
[7/6/2012 6:35:25 PM] Brandon  : Could you go to your champion screen and take a screen shot of it with the "not owned" filter on
[7/6/2012 6:35:40 PM] Brandon  : I just want to see exactly which champions you don't own which is the major selling point for me
[7/6/2012 6:35:53 PM] Greg  : i have screens already
[7/6/2012 6:36:03 PM] Greg  : i did them few days ago
[7/6/2012 6:37:04 PM] *** Greg   sent topchamp.png bot champs.jpg ***
[7/6/2012 6:38:31 PM] Brandon  : very nice
[7/6/2012 6:38:39 PM] Brandon  : I'll tell you what
[7/6/2012 6:38:57 PM] Brandon  : if you were willing to wait until july 8th, when I get paid, I will buy it for 50 dollars
[7/6/2012 6:39:11 PM] Greg  : till tommorow you mean?
[7/6/2012 6:39:30 PM] Brandon  : oh man its 3 am for you
[7/6/2012 6:39:32 PM] Brandon  : over in italy
[7/6/2012 6:39:40 PM] Greg  : yea
[7/6/2012 6:39:43 PM] Greg  : kinda sleepy
[7/6/2012 6:39:47 PM] Greg  : but i can wait
[7/6/2012 6:39:49 PM] Brandon  : well about 36 hours then
[7/6/2012 6:39:56 PM] Greg  : you seem like a nice guy
[7/6/2012 6:40:02 PM] Greg  : i think i will reserve acc for you
[7/6/2012 6:40:02 PM] Greg  : 🙂
[7/6/2012 6:40:14 PM] Brandon  : I'm getting $600 usd from some kid in singapore who bought my old wow account
[7/6/2012 6:40:26 PM] Greg  : wow
[7/6/2012 6:40:27 PM | Edited 6:40:31 PM] Greg  : not bad
[7/6/2012 6:40:55 PM] Brandon  : I probably could have gotten 1100 if wow accounts hadn't crashed with the release of d3 and the release date of gw2 being set at the end of august
[7/6/2012 6:41:07 PM] Brandon  : not much hype for the next expansion in wow either
[7/6/2012 6:41:17 PM] Brandon  : which is kind of disappointing but still a decent haul
[7/6/2012 6:41:33 PM] Greg  : okay, so i' reserving acc for you
[7/6/2012 6:41:39 PM] Greg  : until july 8th
[7/6/2012 6:41:43 PM] Greg  : 🙂
[7/6/2012 6:41:46 PM] Brandon  : yeah
[7/6/2012 6:42:08 PM] Brandon  : can you tell me your paypal so I can send you an invoice
[7/6/2012 6:42:43 PM] Greg  : yep paypal: removed
[7/6/2012 6:42:54 PM] Greg  : okay, dude , i'm going to sleep now
[7/6/2012 6:42:58 PM] Brandon  : good night
[7/6/2012 6:42:58 PM] Greg  : see you later
[7/7/2012 11:03:38 AM] Greg  : Hey, don't have the money yet?
[7/7/2012 11:03:59 AM] Brandon  : I will in about 12 hours
[7/7/2012 11:04:07 AM] Brandon  : only 11am for me
[7/7/2012 6:46:06 PM] Greg  : Hey how about the money? 🙂
[7/7/2012 7:40:06 PM] Greg  : (think)
[7/8/2012 4:34:19 AM] Brandon  : Hey dude, thanks for being so patient
[7/8/2012 4:37:59 AM] Greg  : k, 1 sec
[7/8/2012 4:42:31 AM] Greg  : sent
[7/8/2012 4:43:54 AM] Greg  : you got it?
[7/8/2012 4:44:01 AM] Brandon  : not quite
[7/8/2012 4:44:07 AM] Brandon  : it shouldn't take more than a few minutes
[7/8/2012 4:44:57 AM] Greg  : wait for what price we were doing deal?
[7/8/2012 4:44:59 AM] Greg  : 50?
[7/8/2012 4:45:15 AM] Brandon  : [Friday, July 06, 2012 6:34 PM] Greg  :

<<< hmm
[7/8/2012 4:45:20 AM] Brandon  : oops
[7/8/2012 4:45:26 AM] Brandon  : tried to quote you agreeing on 50
[7/8/2012 4:45:34 AM] Greg  : oh that's ok
[7/8/2012 4:45:35 AM] Greg  : 😄
[7/8/2012 4:47:07 AM] Brandon  : well while I wait for it to arrive I'm going to go make some breakfast
[7/8/2012 4:47:09 AM] Brandon  : alright?
[7/8/2012 4:47:26 AM] Brandon  : just don't want you to think im bailing on you
[7/8/2012 4:47:29 AM] Greg  : kay
[7/8/2012 4:47:32 AM] Greg  : don't worry
[7/8/2012 4:47:41 AM] Greg  : i'm going to make some food too
[7/8/2012 5:01:20 AM] Greg  : (think)
[7/8/2012 5:01:26 AM] Greg  : you got the invoice?
[7/8/2012 5:11:19 AM] Brandon  : yep
[7/8/2012 5:11:21 AM] Brandon  : got it
[7/8/2012 5:11:23 AM] Brandon  : paid
[7/8/2012 5:11:39 AM] Brandon  : Jul 9, 2012 Bill From Diego PendingYou received this payment request but haven't paid it yet.You received this payment request but haven't paid it yet. Details Bill From Diego
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Pay €50.00 EUR
€50.00 EUR
[7/8/2012 5:12:03 AM] Greg  : k, waiting
[7/8/2012 5:12:11 AM] Brandon  : it should be quick
[7/8/2012 5:14:08 AM] Greg  : still nothing
[7/8/2012 5:14:14 AM] Brandon  : hmm
[7/8/2012 5:14:20 AM] Brandon  : well it took me 15 minutes to get the invoice
[7/8/2012 5:14:37 AM] Greg  : hmm, so i will wait
[7/8/2012 5:14:38 AM] Greg  : 😛
[7/8/2012 5:24:23 AM] Greg  : haven't got the money yet
[7/8/2012 5:24:24 AM] Greg  : 😐
[7/8/2012 5:24:58 AM] Brandon  : really?
[7/8/2012 5:25:06 AM] Brandon  : let me check and make sure it went through
[7/8/2012 5:25:32 AM] Greg  : okay...
[7/8/2012 5:25:36 AM] Brandon  : it says payment status pending
[7/8/2012 5:26:03 AM] Brandon  : maybe the currency conversion is slowing it down?
[7/8/2012 5:26:16 AM] Greg  : it could be
[7/8/2012 5:26:31 AM] Greg  : if you change currencies you have to wait few hours i think
[7/8/2012 5:26:34 AM] Brandon  : sorry dude, don't know what to tell you, im anxious to play some league of legends as much as you are for your money
[7/8/2012 5:26:52 AM] Greg  : yep, so i guess just as i see money in pp i give you acc
[7/8/2012 5:26:54 AM] Greg  : 🙂
[7/8/2012 5:27:13 AM] Greg  : i think it's cause of currency converter
[7/8/2012 5:43:15 AM] Greg  : hmm
[7/8/2012 5:43:31 AM | Edited 5:43:32 AM] Greg  : i hope you don't think i'm lying, cause i really don't have money
[7/8/2012 5:43:40 AM] Greg  : i can make you a screenshot of my pp
[7/8/2012 5:46:41 AM] Brandon  : no
[7/8/2012 5:46:43 AM] Brandon  : I believe you
[7/8/2012 5:46:47 AM] Brandon  : it still says pending for me too
[7/8/2012 5:47:02 AM] Brandon  : I'll tell you what, if it doesn't happen within an hour I will cancel the payment and try again
[7/8/2012 5:47:03 AM] Brandon  : alright?
[7/8/2012 5:47:41 AM] Brandon  : I rarely use paypal so im not sure whats up
[7/8/2012 5:47:58 AM] Greg  : okay
[7/8/2012 6:44:46 AM] Greg  : maybe you could just send the money to my paypal as a gift?
[7/8/2012 6:44:49 AM] Greg  : it would be easier
[7/8/2012 6:44:56 AM] Greg  : cancel this and send them
[7/8/2012 6:47:38 AM] Greg  : what do you think?
[7/8/2012 7:00:45 AM] Brandon  : I will try that
[7/8/2012 7:00:50 AM] Brandon  : im so sorry for making you wait so long
[7/8/2012 7:02:18 AM] Greg  : no probs
[7/8/2012 7:02:29 AM] Brandon  : it might also be because its sunday
[7/8/2012 7:02:36 AM] Greg  : i will cancel invoice too ok?
[7/8/2012 7:02:51 AM] Brandon  : and I think international money transfers are still made by real people and not automated to cut down on fraud
[7/8/2012 7:02:53 AM] Brandon  : yes do that
[7/8/2012 7:03:56 AM | Edited 7:03:58 AM] Greg  : canceled
[7/8/2012 7:04:04 AM] Greg  : just try sending money now
[7/8/2012 7:04:46 AM] Brandon  : [Friday, July 06, 2012 6:42 PM] Greg  :

[7/8/2012 7:04:51 AM] Brandon  : is that right? just want to make sure
[7/8/2012 7:05:22 AM] Greg  : y
[7/8/2012 7:05:58 AM] Brandon  : The message also includes settlement instructions. The actual transfer is not instantaneous: funds may take several hours or even days to move from the sender's account to the receiver's account.
[7/8/2012 7:06:03 AM] Brandon  : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_transfer
[7/8/2012 7:06:08 AM] Brandon  : yeah, its not actually instant
[7/8/2012 7:06:29 AM] Brandon  : I don't think it would take hours though
[7/8/2012 7:07:55 AM] Greg  : you are sending them like payment?
[7/8/2012 7:08:09 AM] Brandon  : I can do payment for goods and services or as a gift
[7/8/2012 7:08:15 AM] Brandon  : is payment the same as an invoice?
[7/8/2012 7:08:24 AM] Greg  : yes
[7/8/2012 7:08:30 AM] Brandon  : ok I will gift then
[7/8/2012 7:08:40 AM] Greg  : send payment as a gift, then you don't have to pay transfer fee
[7/8/2012 7:08:49 AM] Brandon  : did you want usd or euro
[7/8/2012 7:09:05 AM] Brandon  : I think you offered 50 usd a few days ago but you invoiced me for euro
[7/8/2012 7:09:06 AM] Brandon  : its your choice
[7/8/2012 7:09:15 AM] Greg  : i would prefer euro
[7/8/2012 7:09:24 AM] Brandon  : alright then
[7/8/2012 7:09:27 AM] Greg  : 🙂
[7/8/2012 7:12:58 AM] Brandon  : anything?
[7/8/2012 7:15:17 AM] Greg  : you sent them?
[7/8/2012 7:18:45 AM] Greg  : (think)
[7/8/2012 7:20:39 AM] Brandon  : I tried using a different card this time to see if it would speed up but now its telling me its over my limit, which its not
[7/8/2012 7:20:41 AM] Brandon  : Amount (Sending Limit: $3,575.00 CAD
[7/8/2012 7:20:51 AM] Brandon  : Í will go back to my original one
[7/8/2012 7:20:58 AM] Brandon  : This is frustrating for me too
[7/8/2012 7:21:00 AM] Brandon  : I hate paypal
[7/8/2012 7:21:09 AM] Greg  : kay, i'm going to supermarket, i be back in 20 mins, okay?
[7/8/2012 7:21:11 AM] Brandon  : alright
[7/8/2012 7:21:15 AM] Brandon  : take your time...
[7/8/2012 8:46:15 AM] Greg  : dude?
[7/10/2012 7:26:21 AM] Brandon  : well
[7/10/2012 7:26:27 AM] Brandon  : it turns out the kid who was buying my wow account
[7/10/2012 7:26:33 AM] Greg  : Heyy
[7/10/2012 7:26:37 AM] Brandon  : was a scammer and I found out too late because he issued a chargeback
[7/10/2012 7:26:43 AM] Greg  : 😞
[7/10/2012 7:26:46 AM] Greg  : so?
[7/10/2012 7:26:51 AM] Greg  : you won't buy?
[7/10/2012 7:26:54 AM] Brandon  : http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/460543-purpleswag-scammer.html
[7/10/2012 7:27:30 AM] Brandon  : If you're still willing to wait, I will just go attach a card to paypal myself and just transfer it with my own money rather than wait for someone to actually pay me through paypal
[7/10/2012 7:27:45 AM] Brandon  : but you've waited a week
[7/10/2012 7:27:49 AM] Brandon  : I don't expect you to actually do that
[7/10/2012 7:27:53 AM] Brandon  : you can go list it again
[7/10/2012 7:28:02 AM] Brandon  : I'm very sorry for all the inconvenience and waiting
[7/10/2012 7:28:04 AM] Greg  : i can wait, no one else contacted me again so no probs
[7/10/2012 7:28:06 AM] Greg  : 🙂
[7/10/2012 7:28:16 AM] Brandon  : Charge backs **bleep**
[7/10/2012 7:28:20 AM] Greg  : but how long i have to wait?
[7/10/2012 7:28:32 AM] Brandon  : well I need to get my bank statement to confirm the card
[7/10/2012 7:28:39 AM] Brandon  : it can't actually be used until its confirmed
[7/10/2012 7:28:44 AM] Brandon  : which is pretty dumb
[7/10/2012 7:28:53 AM] Greg  : yea i hate paypal for that
[7/10/2012 7:28:56 AM] Brandon  : I mean I gave all the necessary info including name and such
[7/10/2012 7:29:33 AM] Brandon  : but I suppose its my own fault for getting scammed because I didn't google his email to see if hes ever done **bleep** like this before
[7/10/2012 7:29:53 AM] Greg  : no probs, i been scammed with chargebacks too
[7/10/2012 7:32:02 AM] Greg  : you know recently yesterday one guy contacted me but he's a scammer, so i will reserve acc for you i trust you
[7/10/2012 7:32:05 AM] Greg  : and i can wait
[7/10/2012 7:32:10 AM] Greg  : is that ok?
[7/10/2012 7:32:16 AM] Brandon  : you found out hes a scammer the hard way?
[7/10/2012 7:32:24 AM] Brandon  : Its perfectly fine
[7/10/2012 7:32:35 AM] Brandon  : Im sure I can personally go to the bank and request a bank statement
[7/10/2012 7:32:41 AM] Brandon  : rather than waiting for the weekly one
[7/10/2012 7:32:57 AM] Greg  : nope, he tried to give me invalid pay safe card
[7/10/2012 7:33:05 AM] Greg  : so i almost got scammed
[7/10/2012 7:33:09 AM] Greg  : but everythings ok
[7/10/2012 7:33:40 AM] Greg  : so , ok i will reserve acc for you, contact me when you can pay
[7/10/2012 7:33:41 AM] Greg  : 🙂
[7/11/2012 2:42:30 AM] Greg  : Hey, so how thing are going with your card?
[7/11/2012 2:42:48 AM] Brandon  : I should get it tomorrow in the mai
[7/11/2012 2:42:49 AM] Brandon  : mail
[7/11/2012 2:42:51 AM] Brandon  : I requested it today
[7/11/2012 2:43:21 AM] Brandon  : pretty sure the bank has to be on time when they say stuff like that
[7/11/2012 2:43:33 AM] Greg  : awesome
[7/11/2012 10:55:17 AM] Brandon  : ok mission accomplished
[7/11/2012 10:55:19 AM] Brandon  : card confirmed
[7/11/2012 10:55:27 AM] Brandon  : ?
[7/11/2012 10:55:55 AM] Greg  : wait
[7/11/2012 10:55:58 AM] Brandon  : [Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:04 AM] Brandon  :

<<<
[7/11/2012 10:56:13 AM] Greg  :
[7/11/2012 10:56:16 AM] Greg  : 🙂
[7/11/2012 10:57:05 AM] Greg  : write me when you will send the money
[7/11/2012 10:57:20 AM] Brandon  : The money has been sent!
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[7/11/2012 10:57:27 AM] Brandon  : check your paypal
[7/11/2012 10:57:31 AM] Greg  : k
[7/11/2012 10:57:32 AM] Greg  : confirming
[7/11/2012 10:57:37 AM] Brandon  : it worked?
[7/11/2012 10:57:47 AM] Brandon  : man I wish it was that simple the first time
[7/11/2012 10:58:33 AM] Greg  : wait a sec i have to confirm email to see money.
[7/11/2012 11:00:35 AM] Greg  : k, i have the money
[7/11/2012 11:00:43 AM] Brandon  : excellent
[7/11/2012 11:03:17 AM] Brandon  : so about the account info
[7/11/2012 11:03:24 AM] Greg  : oh ok
[7/11/2012 11:03:43 AM] Brandon  : I really can't emphasis enough how much I appreciate your patients
[7/11/2012 11:04:17 AM] Greg  : name gandonas112
Pass
[7/11/2012 11:06:26 AM] Brandon  : - Last IP address used to play League of Legends (http://www.whatismyip.com/):
- Your country of residence (where you play League of Legends):
[7/11/2012 11:07:39 AM] Greg  : 115.125.109.28
[7/11/2012 11:07:49 AM] Brandon  : thank you very much
[7/11/2012 11:08:18 AM] Brandon  : wait
[7/11/2012 11:08:20 AM] Brandon  : I can't login
[7/11/2012 11:10:29 AM] Brandon  : http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/27509126#profile
[7/11/2012 11:10:32 AM] Brandon  : you mean THIS?
[7/11/2012 11:10:47 AM] Greg  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dI6mPDCqEo
[7/11/2012 11:10:55 AM] Brandon  : oh...
[7/11/2012 11:11:22 AM] Brandon  : so you did scam me then
[7/11/2012 11:13:07 AM] Brandon  : really dude...
[7/11/2012 11:13:19 AM] Brandon  : I trusted you.

[7/11/2012 11:13:45 AM] Greg  : Dumbass

 

 

 

The first bit is me having all kinds of technical trouble with this **bleep** site and the other guy (who stole my money in the end anyway) was patient for it.

 

He clearly states what he was selling and what it was.

 

We agreed on a price.

 

At the end when he says hes recieved the money he gives me some false info and then links me a video of a guy singing of how I was trolled.

 

Then he bails.

 

When I put in the dispute it never asked me for any information.

 

It asked him for information and then it skipped right over to them making a decision.

 

I was never given any questions.

 

So **bleep** your service and I will never use it again if I don't get this money back immediately.

 
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kernowlass
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Shame you didn't read up on buyer or seller protection before using paypal.   Smiley Sad

 

There is no buyer protection for "virtual" "intangible" items.

 

Also you lose buyer protection when you send gift payments as gifts are just that...gifts.


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methanar
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What a **bleep**ing joke.

 

calling me a dumbass and linked me a trolled song and more or less admitting he scammed me and nothing is still done about it.

 

 

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maurash
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@kernowlass wrote:

Shame you didn't read up on buyer or seller protection before using paypal.   Smiley Sad

 

There is no buyer protection for "virtual" "intangible" items.

 

Also you lose buyer protection when you send gift payments as gifts are just that...gifts.


No.. That's bull**bleep**, if paypal allows their logo to be displayed on this website's page as a means to purchase their goods virtual or no, they should take responsibility for this kind of thing. Hiding behind this seller's protection clause while still openly accepting transactions from known criminal organizations indicates nothing but contempt for the buyers, and even conspiracy to participate in fraud.

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