Funpinpin XINFENGYUAN XINF hiding behind paypal

PD569
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All,

 

I order a product online.  It was a transaction conducted through Paypal Pay (Charged to my AMEX).  The company in question is Funpinpin.  Google them...they are notorious for bait and switch and not upholding their refund policy.  I simply asked for a refund in accordance with their policy.  They have refused and made ridiculous counter offers and even said they sent a product that is different than the one I ordered.  I have set up a dispute with AMEX but the company hides behind Paypal.  I will file with BBB and they have a bunch of similar complaints.  I am hoping to provide my information to Payal in hopes they could prevent this from happening to others.  The dispute process does not lend itself to this...how do I go about protecting the community and providing this information to Paypal through the correct channels Dispute ?  

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kernowlass
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@PD569 

 

Another one of the many of these.


Chinese Web Sites or on Social Media ads easy to spot (once you know the below signs) so buyer beware.

Paypal do stop bad companies from using Paypal when enough claims start rolling in.
However as they are in China (mostly) then its easy for them to just start over with a new name, so stopping them does not really do anything.

The BEST thing is to not buy from them in the first place, to recognise them -

1. No return address on the returns policy. The site will look as if its in your country (where they despatch goods from) but they will ask for returns to go back to China (returns depot) at a shipping cost often more than the item is worth.
2. No contact telephone number. if you click on contact the most you will get is webmail or an email address.
3. Rarely company address information.
4. Great pictures of items at bargain prices that turn out to be tat.
5. Fake reviews.
6. Google and you can often see previous company names as they change them once enough claims roll in and Paypal stop them using their services and start over.
7. Send fake tracking numbers to win item non receipt of item claims.

 

 


How do I open a dispute with a seller when a purchase goes wrong?

You can open a dispute in the Resolution Centre of your PayPal account within 180 days of payment if:
•You don’t receive the item OR service
•You receive an item but it’s significantly different than the description on eBay or on the seller’s website (or you receive a totally different product).

By opening a dispute, you can communicate directly with your seller to work out a problem transaction.

If you reach an agreement with the seller you can close the dispute. If you're still not happy with the result, you can escalate the dispute into a claim. Paypal will review the claim and decide on reimbursement.

These steps apply to Personal accounts. If you have a Business account, please log in to see the steps that apply to you.

To open a dispute:
1.Log in to your PayPal account.
2. Click on the transaction and use the resolve a problem option at the bottom of that details page.

Note:
•Generally buyers must wait at least 7 days from the date of payment to escalate a dispute for an item not received
•Where an item has not been received, please ensure you have given the seller enough time before opening a dispute

Do not close the dispute until you have a refund or your item.
If a seller states that they can't refund until you have closed the dispute don't believe them.
Escalate the dispute to a claim within 20 days (before it times out), if you need Paypal to get involved.

If you lose because the seller provides a fake tracking number then post back here for more advice.
If the item arrives and its not what you ordered / not as described then make sure you change the dispute quickly from non receipt. If the dispute times out before you can change it then contact customer services to open a second dispute for the new reason.

Activate the below link in case you have to return the item at Paypals request (or the correct one for your country as this is the U.S link).

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/returns

If that does not work then if you funded your paypal payment via a card then contact your card issuer and see if they will issue a chargeback.





Advice is voluntary.
Kudos / Solution appreciated.
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PD569
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thanks for trying but what you provide was not even close to what I was asking in the question. First, it was not clear it was a Chinese product on Facebook.  Second, I did not buy through Paypal. The merchant uses Paypal.  Third, I filed a dispute with AMEX since I used my AMEX card to purchase.  The bottom line is the merchant sent a different item than I ordered.  When I asked for a refund they said it was too expensive to ship back and items were not allowed to be returned due to COVID.  I filed a dispute with AMEX, which I used.  However, AMEX is dealing with Paypal, which the merchant used.  So basically, they are hiding behind Paypal services.  What I am trying to do is not make a dispute with Paypal but t to inform them of this deceitful merchant.  I looked through the disputes section and there is nothing that fits what I am trying to do.  This is to provide information to Paypal about this merchant and this transaction and their history of bait and switch and complaints.  In this way, I am hoping to protect others. Thanks
 
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