@kernowlass You gave some super ideas about how to spot fraudsters 5 years ago. Today, the copy and paste list you liberally use across these forums is not so useful and in fact - a bit of a kick in the teeth. Let me explain why. You see the complaints are not about the fraudsters - but Paypal's shielding of them. Even if the post was about how to not get tricked by fraudsters in the first place - your advice is out of date as my list explained. The solution the mod selected for me (?) is meaningless but symbolic. There was no solution and yet a Paypal mod decided there was. Are you even close to understanding there is a theme here? Also my trustpilot links were removed on another thread by the same mod as he claimed I am not allowed to post personal information. The Trustpilot reviews were not displaying any personal information. Spotting a theme yet? Again you talking about items from China being tat. I will put this in bold so it gets through. The items described were high quality Japanese branded products from the US. That is what the scam is. American address, phone number, reviews on facebookfrom the US and the all important 'you can pay through paypal.' Chinese tat is chinese tat - however again, like 99% of what you post, that is sadly irrelevant. You stated: 'Its true however paypal has to give 'buyer AND seller' protection so its an impossible task to please both parties which is why you have to play the system correctly including disputes etc.' Insidious of you to write that when we are talking about fraudsters - not honest businesses. Please attempt to be neutral. Paypal is still deciding whether my fraudster is a fraudster my dear chap and that is what I want you to comment on. NOTHING ELSE. Paypal is aware the fraudulent man and company are not american and have never been american countrary to their advertisement and company literature. Paypal is aware the fraudulent company has now closed its website and deleted its Facebook adverts. I have furnished Paypal with screenshots before all this was deleted. Paypal is aware of the fraud and the falsely advertised product, but Paypal after two weeks of me complaining has still not admitted these people are fraudulent. Paypal is still repeating that repulsive nonsense like you did of being 'fair to both sides' and worse? 'No evidence of fraud but we are looking into it..' This has been going on for two weeks. Paypal has done everything except be honest. Paypal told me there is no evidence of fraud - there is and they later tried to distance themselves from that statement when I stated the obvious facts.. Paypal said the best they could offer if £15 of the £28 return shipping costs because they can't prove the fraud.. when I said I have displayed evidence of the fraud - they went quiet and then nervously offered me some vouchers to make up the difference.... ANYTHING BUT ADMIT I WAS DEFRAUDED AND CLOSE DOWN ALL TIES WITH THESE FRAUDSTERS AND GIVE ME A REFUND.
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