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I am one who does not use a mobile phone.  I think people who do are rude and destined for brain cancer.  Too often I have spoke with folks who weren't even talking to me.  I couldn't imagine paying for the opportunity to be such an idiot as those folks are. Actually I don't have time to leave home after clicking seventeen times just to  pay for something.  Nor do I have the funds to afford a mobile server since ebay is my only gig.  I am just trying to keep my electricity on so I don't have to go to the library to print labels again. The politics of ebay and paypal and their buyer protection creates fertile ground for nit picky customers who wring you out and leave you to rot in a ditch over some silly little non problem they imagined in the first place or made up to cover their buyer's remorse.  Anyways I get left out again for being smart.  I have not subscribed to the mobile frenzy of bs apps like the masses seem to have. I doubt I will win any contest for my  addition of my "mobile app experience"  but I wouldn't expect to anyways.  I don't  play the lotto  nor enter silly contests  that are giving away a whoppping  $2500 bucks to their customers who collectively  have spent billions on the site.  I see that as the ultimate cheap shot.  Am we supposed to be all excited?  Am we stupid?   ... View more

You are responsible for all Reversals, Chargebacks, Claims, fees, fines, penalties and other liability incurred by PayPal, a User, or a third party caused by or arising out of your breach of this Agreement, and/or your use of the PayPal Services. You agree to reimburse PayPal, a User, or a third party for any and all such liability     So technically speaking,  according to Preypal,  it's ebay sellers whom are it's paying customers, are responsible even for all of the "penalties",  ( penalties for credit card and identity theft could  include jail time, wage garnishment,  and limitations imposed on free trade such as ability to hold a checking account etc)     So paypal in it's user agreement  lays even criminal penalties upon not guilty fools who are stupid enough to agree to such preposterous terms, and make an honest living using ebay whom requires it's users to accept paypal which requires them to agree to go to jail for acts committed by others and also pay for any car crash injuries the identity theif causes on his way to the internet cafe to make the fake order to your ebay item.   The terms used are so vague I hardly believe they could possibly  be legal.  You can not just waive criminal liability onto another via fine print in a contract.   The user agreement could not be legal.  Paypal should lose any competent challenge to this in any competent court.  What do you think?   Are you ready to do the theif's jail time?  Do you still agree even after your sixth month of incarceration and 97'th serving of unsalted undercoooked lima beans?   This amounts to a userous and illegal contract.  But heck, monopolies are illegal too, but we don't see that enforced,  instead we see paypal and ebay BOTH on the us postage?  Maybe that's why ebay claims money is not safe,   they want their logo on it too?    Let's enforce the monopoly and antitrust laws that paypal violates first.   I think that's a better idea than me serving time for somebody else,  which is paypal's idea.   Fine print should be given proportional weight to the fine-ness of the print.   The large print should have more weight in court.   Now I bet your brain is smoking?    Can you process it?   ~ Winning ... View more

To the brown-nosing "redpower"  who asks "do you really expect paypal to cover this?" and the four kudo-ers.   I agree with the OP,   YES we expect either ebay or paypal to cover this.  They are the ones with all the large print saying Seller protection,  and baity phrases like "we got you covered"   On top of this, ebay ends listings when they even contain the word "cash"  and publicly state that they don't allow their sellers to accept cash, because it is not a "safe form of payment" Not safe for their pocketbook I think they mean.  So after a company goes against the legal tender for all debts public AND PRIVATE,  slandering it as "unsafe"  Yes we expect them to cover it.  Yes indeed we do.    By the way,  I don't require ebay or paypal's permission for anything I do.  I am a free person living in the modern day fascist military industrial complex police state called the USA.  Free only because I do what I want regardless of rules or laws.  Funny that  ebay and paypal are actually printed on the postage now.  The govt has become unified with corporations, banks, car manufacturers etc, This is so wrong.  I have to end this post before I puke on my keyboard. ... View more