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Re: Disputed charge debacle--how can you contact a...

by CapHillGal Contributor in Security and Fraud Archives
‎May-19-2023 02:52 PM
‎May-19-2023 02:52 PM
Hi all, Thought I would provide an update.  I realize the world has changed and several of you out there believe social media is the solution.  I would offer that social media has a lot of value but comes with its own boatload of problems.  Maybe I will try it and see if anyone out there responds.  But, back to my update.  Recap:  Item ordered 4/17/23; erroneous tracking number (fraudulent?) provided by seller.  eBay (relying on the erroneous tracking number) said it was delivered, PayPal endorsed eBay’s assertion and now AMEX says PayPal and eBay say it was delivered so my case is denied!  I asked if anyone called FedEx as I requested to find that the tracking number was not associated with my name or my address.  The answer is no!  According to my research, it is a growing scam!  Here is how it works.  The fraudulent seller advertises a bogus product on Ebay.  After a few days, they provide a tracking number fitting the timeline and delivery to the buyer’s zip code.  Since no one at Ebay, PayPal, or AMEX investigates beyond seeing a tracking number marked delivered, the crook has several weeks, months, or more, to take the buyer’s money and run.  While I am living proof that it happens, I hope to change that trend!  The chat feature is useless in cases like this as it is programed for yesterday’s problems!  I’ve successfully found a few real people who recognize the error and submit or resubmit the dispute.  Unfortunately, the dispute department (is that the weak link?) does not read the documentation or simply signs off that the tracking number says the product was delivered!  Cha-ching...the bad guy wins!  Given that I was told again today that AMEX sides with eBay, PayPal and the fraudulent seller and I am once again being charged for my un-delivered order, I reached out to FedEx again.  While they reinforced that they cannot give me information in writing as I am not the seller or receiver, they also reinforced that they CAN share with ebay, PayPal, and AMEX but I guess, no one asked!  Next step:  report it to their abuse at their domain email. I still find it hard to believe that this easily verified, simple case is going unsolved and generating so much income to criminals!  Why is it no one investigates?  Is it that they just don't care?  What's up with that? ... View more

Re: Disputed charge debacle--how can you contact a...

by CapHillGal Contributor in Security and Fraud Archives
‎May-14-2023 03:38 PM
‎May-14-2023 03:38 PM
Thanks Sharpiemarker.  Appreciate your reply.  The focus of my issue was the challenge of getting to a person in PayPal's resolution center.  My point was PayPal sent me a message saying THEY closed the case in the seller's favor BEFORE I went to AMEX!  I was willing to wait and even willing to reach back to PayPal to ask if they actually researched the bogus tracking number.  It was not until I could not find someone or a link to the topic that I elevated it to AMEX.  But once I did, my mysteriously closed case was somehow resurrected to tell me they were done.  I get that the AMEX inquiry stopped them, but why did they say it was resolved when it wasn't? Hence my reference to the debacle!    I am interested to know if that had happened to others and if anyone has successfully talked to a PayPal person.  At this point, I am voting with my feet and taking friends with me.  PayPal lost my trust and won't even discuss.  Seems they don't want feedback. ... View more

Disputed charge debacle--how can you contact a per...

by CapHillGal Contributor in Security and Fraud Archives
‎May-13-2023 03:17 PM
‎May-13-2023 03:17 PM
Hi All, Filed a claim because I never received my order. Seller provided a bogus tracking number. PayPal echat said she would review and of course, would contact FedEx. She was sure my claim would be approved. A few days later I got a notice saying it was denied because seller provided tracking number. I tried contacting PayPal but got the run around in e-chat. Can't get to a person. I finally gave up and called AMEX as they do have people to talk with. I disputed the charge. Today I get a message that PayPal saying they can not continue to review my case because I disputed with AMEX. Now very confused (as they said it was closed) but can't find my way back to even the e-chat!  Does ANYONE at PayPal work together? Does anyone talk? Looks to me like there is NO ONE in charge. Anyone out there know how to get to a person?  I am thinking no one cares so about to vote with my feet, sell my stock, and take all my followers with me.  This is ridiculous!  Thanks all. ... View more
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