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Bazzinator
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Re: Why is PayPal making it difficult to find your...

by Bazzinator Contributor in Reporting Archives
‎Sep-19-2021 05:47 PM
‎Sep-19-2021 05:47 PM
The Australian Financial Complaints Authority has finally come back to me about this. It has taken several months, so I assume they have done a thorough job of checking the legislation. The analyst who investigated the issue is shown below.   Keith <removed> Case Analyst <removed> | Free Call <removed> www.afca.org.au   According to their investigation there are no Australian laws requiring financial service providers to be transparent in their dealings with consumers. So long as PayPal abides by their own "terms and conditions", they can be as opaque as the like. Australian Law does not require financial companies to report their clients financial situation clearly, and they can obscure transactions and make balancing accounts as difficult as they like so long as this is within their own "terms and conditions".   I can't answer this question for other countries, but for Australians it would seem that your only option is to bring this up with your Federal MP. Financial organisations like PayPal are inherently greedy and should not be allowed to set their own rules as to how transparent their statement reporting needs to be.  ... View more

Re: Why is PayPal making it difficult to find your...

by Bazzinator Contributor in Reporting Archives
‎May-05-2021 05:18 PM
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‎May-05-2021 05:18 PM
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Yes that's correct. The running balance is not a true running balance. It seems to be some magical number that PayPal pulls out of their butts. ... View more

Re: How do I see a statement with a running balanc...

by Bazzinator Contributor in Reporting Archives
‎Apr-28-2021 05:50 PM
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‎Apr-28-2021 05:50 PM
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It's crazy how few people are complaining about this. I figure most PayPal users mustn't balance their accounts. ... View more

Re: Why is PayPal making it difficult to find your...

by Bazzinator Contributor in Reporting Archives
‎Apr-26-2021 11:32 PM
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‎Apr-26-2021 11:32 PM
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The saga continues.   The Australia Financial Complaints Authority was lead to believe by PayPal that this complaint related to the display of balances on the homepage, and so they advised me that they were investigating the complaint with a view to whether PayPal is complying with its own "Terms and Conditions". I have clarified the complaint with the following information....     ------------ Your summary of your understanding of the complaint is incorrect. I will attempt to clarify the main areas of concern below.   You say in your understanding of the complaint that it is to do with PayPal removing the running balances from the “homepage” of an account.   Clarification: PayPay removed the balances from the homepage a long time ago, but left a number of ways to get a running balance. It was not a problem.   The problem arose recently when PayPal also removed running balances from a) The Detailed View, b) The Detailed View with filter for Balance View all Transactions and c) The PDF Statement Report. I have attached two images showing where PayPal have recently removed the running balance from the “BALANCE VIEW” screen and from the PDF statements.   The CSV report view is the only way now to get running balances, and it’s not only “cumbersome”, it doesn’t even work half the time. I have attached an image “PayPal FAULTY Report Request” showing that half the requested CSV reports don’t even generate.     PayPal have stated that “the service used by PayPal that provided customers with the running balance filter information has been phased out.”   This does not get to the heart of the question. My question is “Why has it been phased out if not for some nefarious reason”? Running balance reporting is a way for customers to keep a track of their accounts and ensure there are no errors. The problem with PayPal accounts is that many people using the “service” do not keep a good eye on their balances, and by systematically removing running balances from all sources, PayPal are hiding possible errors from a large portion of customers who won’t go to the trouble of queuing and requeuing CSV reports, downloading them (when they work), opening with Excel and adjusting the columns so they can see the balances.   The main reason for the complaint was not to ask whether PayPal is complying with their own “Terms and Conditions”. The reason for the complaint is to ask if PayPal is complying with Australian Law. I do not have access to all the legal requirements for financial institutions, and so I am asking you for help in this matter.   It seems to me that there would be some law in effect that prevents a financial institution from hiding information that enables a consumer to reconcile balance errors. It is obvious from the actions of PayPal in the systematic removal of this crucial information, that they are attempting to obscure the account reconciliation process. I realise that PayPal may be simply trying to lessen the load for their support staff who have proven themselves to be extremely incompetent, but the decision to “phase out” a system designed to aid in account reconciliation could also be an attempt to skim funds from the accounts of millions of unsuspecting customers.   What I am seeking essentially is advice on whether there is a law in effect that protects consumers of financial institutions. If there is no law in effect, and we are bound by PayPal’s terms and conditions I will escalate the situation by highlighting the problem with our Federal MP so that we can get a law passed to protect consumers from this type of suspect behaviour.   I am also asking if PayPal higher management is aware of the “phasing out” decision, and if they are confident that the decision has not been made by someone for unscrupulous reasons, because that’s how it looks to PayPal’s customers. ... View more

Re: Formal Complaint about PayPal

by Bazzinator Contributor in Suggestions for PayPal
‎Apr-12-2021 07:15 PM
‎Apr-12-2021 07:15 PM
PayPal staff are trained to respond like this. The hope is that most complaints will die a natural death due to frustration. ... View more

Re: How do I see a statement with a running balanc...

by Bazzinator Contributor in Reporting Archives
‎Apr-12-2021 07:10 PM
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‎Apr-12-2021 07:10 PM
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I trust you are allowing for the PayPal fees that come out.   Apart from that. the PayPal running balance was never perfect, but it was better than having no balances. We often found gaps in the data where maybe a a payment was taken partially from the PayPal balance and partially from a credit card. Overseas transactions also tended to corrupt the data.   The impression we get is either one of incompetence or dishonesty. We can't work out which one, hence this original post.   If it's incompetence, it will be because PayPal don't hire good programmers, and were never able to get the running balances working well. Due to the number of complaints they were receiving about balances not adding up, they eventually threw their hands up in the air and decided to remove the balances altogether.    If it's dishonesty, then it has been done to make it hard for people to balance their accounts so they don't notice funds being skimmed.   If you have indeed accounted for the fees, then your situation lends support to the dishonesty hypothesis and you should report it to the financial authorities in your country. PayPal needs to be investigated over this.         ... View more

Re: How do I see a statement with a running balanc...

by Bazzinator Contributor in Reporting Archives
‎Mar-11-2021 03:09 PM
‎Mar-11-2021 03:09 PM
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Reporting/Why-is-PayPal-making-it-difficult-to-find-your-Account-Balance/m-p/2616704#M8895   ... View more

Re: Why is PayPal making it difficult to find your...

by Bazzinator Contributor in Reporting Archives
‎Mar-08-2021 10:12 PM
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‎Mar-08-2021 10:12 PM
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An update to this. After getting nowhere with PayPal we submitted a complaint to the Australian Financial Complaints Authority. We clearly stated what this was about, ie PayPal removing balances from the All Transactions (Balances View) and the PDF Reports. Further, it was about the suspect motives of the PayPal employee who organised to remove the balances.    Now to show you how PayPal staff don't take the time to fully grasp what is written in front of them, this below is the PayPal representatives summary of what they "thought" our complaint was about.   PAYPAL RESPONSE: "You have contacted us expressing concerns with regards to change in policy with regards to the information displayed on the homepage of your PayPal account..."    PayPal removed the balances from the homepage a long time ago and we had no issue with this because the balance was still available in "All Transactions" using the "Balance Affecting View" option, and also in a PDF report if you don't mind waiting for one to generate (sometimes over a day). I guess PayPal got a lot of complaints when they removed balances from the homepage, so the lazy person responding to our latest complaint just assumed this was yet another complaint about that decision. NO PAYPAL, READ THE COMPLAINT, UNDERSTAND THE COMPLAINT, INVESTIGATE and RESPOND APPROPRIATELY.   The complaint has now been escalated with the Australian Financial Complaints Authority. ... View more

Re: "Balance View" no longer shows running balance

by Bazzinator Contributor in Reporting Archives
‎Mar-08-2021 10:01 PM
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‎Mar-08-2021 10:01 PM
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Hi,   Refer to the post I did about this 22nd February   https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Reporting/Why-is-PayPal-making-it-difficult-to-find-your-Account-Balance/m-p/2611595#M8821 ... View more

Re: Balances no longer showing in activity view

by Bazzinator Contributor in My Money Archives
‎Mar-08-2021 10:01 PM
‎Mar-08-2021 10:01 PM
Hi,   Refer to the post I did about this 22nd February   https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Reporting/Why-is-PayPal-making-it-difficult-to-find-your-Account-Balance/m-p/2611595#M8821   ... View more
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