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Re: Paypal holding money after I proved delivery o...

by Marnan2013 Contributor in About Protections
‎Jan-19-2018 04:12 AM
‎Jan-19-2018 04:12 AM
I had it set up on Ebay to do the Global Shipping.  Somehow the buyer got it paid for and paid US shipping.  After 3 days of calling everyday, Ebay said they would cover it if there were problems and go ahead and ship.  I never use a shipping service for out of country, always use global shipping, so I sent it international first class.  In 15 years with Paypal, I had never had a problem.  I finally found the Mexican shipping site and sent Paypal the tracking info.  It was acutally delivered yesterday.  I followed up 3 hours later with a phone call.  The first two people told me that they couldn't cover it because the case was closed.  After throwing a huge fit, and starting the paperwork to file a consumer complaint with the Florida Attorney Generals office (I emailed it to Paypal while I was on hold for an hour and 15 minutes), a very nice lady got on the phone and isssued me a refund for my item and the $20 Paypal fee charged to me.  I'm still out $47 in shipping however.   ... View more

Re: Next step after Paypal completely screws up cl...

by Marnan2013 Contributor in About Protections
‎Jan-19-2018 04:04 AM
‎Jan-19-2018 04:04 AM
Good Luck I have been using Paypal for 18 years now and on Ebay for over 20 years with the same account.  I never had a problem until this last Nov.  Ebay has taken away my listing privladges without an explanation.  You can guess all day, who knows.  I did spend several days and had my accountant send in my receipts for every purchased item I listed on Ebay in the last year.  After that happened, then Paypal chimed in.  I had one buyer send back a security system that they paid $200 for saying they had changed their mind.  This was after filing a return claim.  The only problem is that one of the cameras and all of the cables are gone.  Neither Paypal or Ebay will do anything about it.  I'm out the purchase price, the shipping costs, and I have a system I can't resell.  In the same week a package going to Mexico, the same system, the buyer filed a didn't receive claim 18 days after it was shipped.  I had it set up to ship through global shipping.  Somehow, the buyer was able to pay without going through it and paid the US shipping rate.  Called Ebay 3 days in a row and was finally told by a supervisor to go ahead and ship it, if there were any problems, Ebay would be there to help me.  Guess what, the buyer filed a claim with their bank who within a couple of days paid the buyers claim, so Paypal closed the claim and said buyer protection will not cover me because I didn't ship it international priority.  I didn't know that because I always use global express.  It does say that in their terms however.  Paypal told me to call Ebay and actually forwarded me to Ebay.  They won't cover me because it was Paypal that closed the case.  Finally yesterday, I found the Mexican postal service tracking and found it was delivered.  I sent this to Paypal and followed 3 hours later with a phone call.  The first two gentlement told me nothing could be done because the case was closed.  After throwing a huge fit, and starting the paperwork to file a consumer complaint with the Florida Attorney Generals office (I emailed it to Paypal while I was on hold for an hour and 15 minutes), a very nice lady got on the phone and isssued me a refund for my item and the $20 Paypal fee charged to me.  I'm still out $47 in shipping however.     This was the short version.  I have spent many hours, many emails and many phone calls on it.  The lesson in all of this is neither intity can be trusted to do anything for the seller.  Once you get on the bad list, forget it.  I have gone to other platforms this month for selling.  Bonanza is actually doing quite well.  Started the work to go with Stripe, Square and Pay Simple yesterday.  Avoiding Paypal and Ebay with a long stick.  Be careful my friend.  Oh by the way, this will probably be deleted.  Ebay deleted my posts in the community because I  posted the emails that they had sent me.  It is against the rules to discuss the content of any correspondense in writing or verbal form that you have with Ebay.(fyi) ... View more

Paypal holding money after I proved delivery of it...

by Marnan2013 Contributor in About Protections
‎Jan-18-2018 04:06 AM
‎Jan-18-2018 04:06 AM
I shipped an article to Mexico in November via USPS internatioanal first class.  The buyer filed a complaint he didn't receive it.  Paypal wouldn't except my proof of shipping because it just showed it was in transit.  The gave the buyer back is payment and closed the case.  I finally found the tracking info from Mexico's postal system which uses the original tracking number.  It shows delivery, but now Paypal won't refund my money because I didn't send it Priority.  All of this is after waiting 3 days to ship and numerous calls to Ebay.  I had it set for Global Express, but somehow the buyer paid for it and it didn't go through that system.  So I have lost my merchandise, lost the very expensive shipping money, lost my payment and lost the $20 Paypal charged me.  Over $200 in all.  What do I do now?  In the 15+ years of being with Paypal, I never dreamed this would happen.  The same week a buyer sent back a package saying they changed their mind, but half of it was gone.  Ebay won't reimburse me because I can't prove it was gone.   ... View more
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