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Re: Paypal prompting me to break the law in order ...

by dean_dodds Contributor in Disputes and claims
‎Oct-11-2011 09:52 AM
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Hi,   The Police advised they wouldn't confiscate the item because the offence had happened in Thialand, and because there is no UK contact, they wouldn't be able to act.   HOWEVER she has said that the police wouldn't be able to just put in writing something in couterfeit, as they aren't experts in that particular feed.   Please can you help in looking through the comments I will write next, and you come up with a solution that is possible, rather than just saying what the policy is.   The items cannot be posted back as are illegal (you have said its not reqd now they are fake) Morrisons/Asda/Tesco/Disney Store/HMV have all said they aren't able to provide a document like you are requesting when I have rang them. The police have said you would be arrested if you were to walk around the streets with fake DVD's if you were reported. If its illegal to do either of your two requests (walk around with fake DVD's, or post back), then what can you say.   I have already done a direct debit indemnity so have my money back, but am making sure Paypal are happy with the end agreement. If Paypal only give me two options which both risk being arrested then I think I will just report it to the bank with the retail complaints/fraud dept, as you are being unreasonable in your requests in order for me to get my money back.   You have to remember here, It is me who has been ripped off because someone has been selling fake DVD's, yet its me who you are ruling against, and making it impossible for to do what you ask.   Surely you must have instances where its just not possible to do what you ask, as they aren't allowed/possible ... View more

Paypal prompting me to break the law in order to r...

by dean_dodds Contributor in Disputes and claims
‎Oct-08-2011 11:54 AM
‎Oct-08-2011 11:54 AM
I bought 4 Disney DVD's from www.century21shop.co.uk and when they arrived, I was horrified to see they were posted from Thialand, and surprise surprise the DVD's were blatently fake.   They don't have the Disney Hologram, the print is all smudged/ghost like, the back of the DVD cover says "for sale in the USA/Canada only", and Region 1, even thought they should be region 2.   I rang the police to report the website, and have had a visit from a police officer, who has given me a crime reference number, however Paypal have said that won't do, and I have to get a statement from a retailer to confirm they are fake, or they have agreed to refund me if I post the fake items back to Thialand.   Two really strange things   1. It would be against the law to post counterfeit goods through the post, so returning the item would mean I was doing something illegal.   2. I was informed by the police officer who came to my house that if I was stopped when walking around shops with fake DVD's that more than Likely I would be arrested, on suspission of dealing in counterfeit goods.   I have however rang around retailers to try and see if they would agree to give me this letter. So far I have spoken to the Disney Shop / Morrisons/ HMV / Tesco & Asda, who have all said that its not something they could supply, yet when I rang Paypal to explain I was told that unless I supplied that, or posted it back, they would challenge my Direct Debit indemnity claim with the bank.   When I explained that the 2 options which they want me to explore would both mean I would be breaking the law, I had the reply (from a Supervisor at Paypal), that lots of people every day sell Fake items, so the chances of me getting caught with them would be slim to none. HELLO, how can a company like Paypal think its acceptable that because all the other criminals out there deal in fakes, that its acceptable for me to risk it.   What a joke, I am going to speak to the retailer disputes team at the bank to explain that the only options paypal are giving me are illegal ones, and will also be reporting Paypal to the FSA to let them know as well, and see if they aren't happy with Paypal's ludacris requests in order to protect a buyer of fake items.   I have offered photo's of the items missing the holograms etc, but they don't accept those either.   What can I do?, I don't want to get ripped off, and also don't really want to break the law in order to prove my case in getting the money back.   The crime reference from the police isn't good enough, even though I have reported the DVD's, and the website that they were bought from.   Another Paypal con in my eyes, to protect the people who sell fake items, as that is where Paypal is making their money.   ... View more
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