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Re: Yokawa Network Limited Is a SCAM

by abbeyth Contributor in Security and Fraud Archives
‎Dec-01-2020 09:39 AM
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OMG GOOD NEWS! So PayPal's "Resolution Center" is an effing joke, as we all know. I got to the point in the dispute where Yokawa "offered" me a full refund if only I would send back their precious product (a less-than-2-foot tall fake xmas tree that looks like it was made with giant pipe cleaners) - which we all know is nonsense as the price to mail it back would be more than I paid for it, likely. And within the Resolution Center, my only option after that was to submit the tracking info, which obviously I wasn't going to have. So I submitted the photos I'd already done earlier in the dispute and wrote out my issue in the comments of that. I also reached out to the general customer service robot on PayPal's website and, would you believe it, THEY GAVE ME A FULL REFUND! See the bot-chat transcript below and how I kept going in order to get to a person (maybe?) who then just went ahead and gave the refund and allegedly reported the company to PayPal's fraud department (doubtful).  ... View more

Re: Yokawa Network Limited Is a SCAM

by abbeyth Contributor in Security and Fraud Archives
‎Nov-30-2020 05:11 PM
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After reading this thread, something very sad has become clear to me: All along we see ourselves as PayPal users and customers, when in reality, we are actually their PRODUCT. Yokawa and others like them are PayPal's actual customers - it is off THEIR sales that PayPal makes their money. When in doubt, follow the money - if you're not the one paying it for a service, then someone else is, and that makes you the product, not the customer. Much like Facebook - we all see ourselves as its users, and therefore its customers, but it is a free service. We are Facebook's product, or I should say that our demographic information and access to micro-targeted user groups is their actual product, sold to marketing firms and bigger fish like Cambridge Analytica, etc. Yes, we put money into PayPal, but that doesn't mean we're paying them - we use it as a conduit to get our money from one place to another. In cases like these, PayPal will always take the side of the company paying the bills, which is scammers like this. They tell us we can dispute things but then use opaque beaurocracy against us. It's all a scam from the start to the end and PayPal couldn't care less as long as they make their cut. ... View more

Re: Yokawa Network Limited Is a SCAM

by abbeyth Contributor in Security and Fraud Archives
‎Nov-20-2020 09:41 PM
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Yeah, my "tree" just arrived today da I couldn't help but laugh... ... View more
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