1. Stating Ebay owns Paypal. - I wasn't wrong about this. I didn't realise that had since changed recently, but obviously nothing has _changed_. 2. Saying its a Paypal hold when thats impossible for an Ebay transaction. -This is true, and has been confirmed by ebay themselves. Hence the message came from paypal, and is held on paypal. 3. Saying things are ''illegal'' without proof. -It is illegal to withhold funds for no reason, under the guise of "protection". Paypal have obviously skirted the laws and you can see this in multiple threads around the internet if you can google. 4. Saying that you have been put back on the hold by Ebay for no reason, they don't do it for no reason. -By paypal, again. And for their stated reason is "a high chance this item will disappoint". Which is ridiculous. "I don't work for paypal at all even for free." So you waste time online hurling abuse and being incorrect on your forum of choice. That makes more sense. You haven't offered anything useful, or even correct. /t5/Fraud-phishing-and-spoof-Archive/class-action-lawsuit-for-HOLDING-MONEY/td-p/70756 /t5/Holds-reversals-reserves/PayPal-Funds-Hold-surely-this-is-illegal/td-p/1194267 http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=846785 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2497130 Those are the first 4 links I found, so obviously this is a wide-spread issue. It seems paypal is on a weekly basis **bleep** over its customer base. I'll move to Amazon like the rest of the intelligent people seem to be doing. My bad for using paypal here to begin with, when they are so fast and loose with the rules & laws http://www.paypalsucks.com/newforums/chitchat/96005-why-paypal-not-treated-bank.html Anyway I don't know why I'm arguing with a child on the internet. Enjoy your internet points. I'm sure they'll take you far :)
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@kernowlass I haven't fallen in "stars". I've never had a complaint. Ebay have confirmed it's Paypal at fault here. You can look up all the other people complaining about this issue. Paypal putting items on hold, while keeping the fees immediately and keeping the interest. You can state your EULA all you like, but it's immoral, unethical, and absolutely dirty. There's little point talking to you though - your tag states volunteer. So you work for free for a company that you shill for. Your bias can't be more obvious. As well as being rude and also unhelpful. You don't need to reply here anymore.
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@kernowlass do a google search and you'll see that ebay owns paypal since 2002. They're the same company. This is how paypal and ebay interfaces API talk to each other on an extremely deep and integrated level. You'd never see that in two separate companies with two separate corporate policies. I'm not a new seller on either, so this doesn't make sense. I got the email regarding the hold via paypal, and that's where the money is stored now as per the web console. Never use an EULA to defend illegal and shark-like actions. It's anti-consumerist and completely naive.
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Money paid by buyer's on ebay have been put on hold. I sold 4 items - all from an old computer, at once. 3 of those have been unduly put on hold. This has made it so I'm unable to complete the transaction and send out the items. Reading here it seems like it's a total crap-shoot if they'll even release the money after everything has been sent and positive feedback has received. I'm not a new seller and I've never really had any problems or complaints.
This seems like an illegal, and outright gross attempt to hustle members of this service. I am honestly surprised that paypal hasn't been sued to the ground with these shark tactics, and ebay moreso with their complete anti-competition.
What is the best thing to do here, as a seller? Contact the buyer and tell _them_ to speak to paypal, as they've locked their money away?
Attempt to cancel the order completely? As people have suggested here, the best thing to do to move forward is to move over to Amazon. If I cancel the order I assume that Paypal will have no choice but to refund the money back. They'll no longer be able to hide behind the idea they're protecting anyone.
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