Joyride.co.ltd

Darrssy
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I ordered from this so called ‘company’ back in October. Supposedly the 9 items (lettered money boxes) were coming from Canada. What a crock of bull that was! Found this out after I went googling looking for information on this seller because I’d received no invoice and a really vague tracking info. Any questions I sent to their support thing were fobbed off with be patient item is come.mclassic no pun English speaking reply!

filed a dispute with PayPal back on the 10th of December and low and behold get tracking information from Australia post from a company called Yanwen based in Victoria! Today I received half my items still missing four of them. They are clearly not what I was expecting. They were bigger and better looking in the advertisement! I am wanting to return to get all my money back. I am furious. On researching on here it looks like plenty of other people have had problems with them. Why does PayPal allow them to keep operating through them?

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kernowlass
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@Darrssy 


Chinese Web Sites or on Social Media ads easy to spot (once you know the below signs) so buyer beware.

Paypal would not be able to check every individual seller / merchant / company in over 200 countries worldwide that adds paypal to their website to accept payments.

So they give some buyer and some seller protection. However that protection can never be a 100% coverall so you need to read it so you can risk assess your transactions.

They do stop bad companies from using Paypal when enough claims start rolling in.
However as they are in China (mostly) then its easy for them to just start over with a new name, so stopping them does not really do anything.

The best thing is to not buy from them in the first place, to recognise them -

1. No return address on the returns policy. The site will look as if its in your country (where they despatch goods from) but they will ask for returns to go back to China (returns depot) at a shipping cost often more than the item is worth.
2. No contact telephone number. if you click on contact the most you will get is webmail or an email address.
3. Rarely company address information.
4. Great pictures of items at bargain prices that turn out to be tat.
5. Fake reviews.
6. Google and you can often see previous company names as they change them once enough claims roll in and Paypal stop them using their services and start over.
7. Send fake tracking numbers to win item non receipt of item claims.

How do I open a dispute with a seller when a purchase goes wrong?

You can open a dispute in the Resolution Centre of your PayPal account within 180 days of payment if:
•You don’t receive the item OR service
•You receive an item but it’s significantly different than the description or you receive a totally different product.

By opening a dispute, you can communicate directly with your seller to work out a problem transaction.

If you reach an agreement with the seller you can close the dispute. If you're still not happy with the result, you can escalate the dispute into a claim. Paypal will review the claim and decide on reimbursement.

These steps apply to Personal accounts. If you have a Business account, please log in to see the steps that apply to you.

To open a dispute:
1.Log in to your PayPal account.
2. Click on the transaction and use the resolve a problem option at the bottom of that details page.

Note:
•Generally buyers must wait at least 7 days from the date of payment to escalate a dispute for an item not received
•Where an item has not been received, please ensure you have given the seller enough time before opening a dispute

Do not close the dispute until you have a refund or your item.
If a seller states that they can't refund until you have closed the dispute don't believe them.
Escalate the dispute to a claim within 20 days (before it times out), if you need Paypal to get involved.

If that does not work then if you funded your paypal payment via a card then contact your card issuer and see if they will issue a chargeback.

However be aware if you win the claim paypal nearly always expect you to return the item back to the seller at your own expense and trackable to prove delivery which is often more expensive than the item is worth !! Thats the risk of buying internationally unfortunately.


Advice is voluntary.
Kudos / Solution appreciated.
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Darrssy
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I have filed a dispute and have provided PayPal with a lot of i formation if I don’t get a resolution from them I will call them. I am tired of talking to Bots

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