Is this genuine

mortypix
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Someone wants to buy a high value  (over £1000) from me and offered to pay by paypal but is not coming to see the item but wants to send a courier.

Should I be suspicious ?    worried he might stop his payment once he has the goods?

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kernowlass
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@mortypix

 

READ THE BELOW AS I SUSPECT ITS THIS SCAM.

 

They encourage you to accept a 'direct' Paypal payment and may ask you to send the item internationally.
No funds or activity of the transaction shows in your Paypal account and any emails 'may' go into your junk or spam folders.

They don't quibble on cost and may also say they can't view the item as they are disabled or working abroad etc etc but they will arrange a shipping agent to collect it.

You will get/got a "fake" email that looks as though it is from paypal.....it isn't because they don't actually have a Paypal account and have no intention of paying you.
It will say the buyer has paid ...you won't have been paid.

The 'fake' paypal email will tell you that the buyer has paid for the item + shipping costs but you must send those shipping costs to the courier/ shipping agent via western union, moneygram or walmart etc BEFORE the funds are released to you.
They are not interested in the item, they just want the western union etc funds and you will never see money in your paypal balance.

Paypal NEVER tell you to send an item before the payment is showing in your paypal account.
Paypal do not tell you to send trackable, they advise it for selling protection but it is not compulsory.
Paypal NEVER expect you to use a rival money transfer service eg Moneygram or Western Union etc.
Delete any emails and ignore the scammers.


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sharpiemarker
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The issue is whether the courier gives you tracking info.  It is always best to ship it with the shipping service of your choice insured and with tracking (charging the customer for the shipping/insurance) so you have proof of delivery in case the buyer files a Item Not Received dispute or they file Not As Described dispute (both dispute types can be filed within 180 days of payment), you still have to accept return. Or worse, they will file a chargeback and get charged an extra fee + refund of the money paid to you.

 

Read the seller protection programme for more info:

https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#r011


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mortypix
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Thanks so much, this helps

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kernowlass
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@mortypix

 

READ THE BELOW AS I SUSPECT ITS THIS SCAM.

 

They encourage you to accept a 'direct' Paypal payment and may ask you to send the item internationally.
No funds or activity of the transaction shows in your Paypal account and any emails 'may' go into your junk or spam folders.

They don't quibble on cost and may also say they can't view the item as they are disabled or working abroad etc etc but they will arrange a shipping agent to collect it.

You will get/got a "fake" email that looks as though it is from paypal.....it isn't because they don't actually have a Paypal account and have no intention of paying you.
It will say the buyer has paid ...you won't have been paid.

The 'fake' paypal email will tell you that the buyer has paid for the item + shipping costs but you must send those shipping costs to the courier/ shipping agent via western union, moneygram or walmart etc BEFORE the funds are released to you.
They are not interested in the item, they just want the western union etc funds and you will never see money in your paypal balance.

Paypal NEVER tell you to send an item before the payment is showing in your paypal account.
Paypal do not tell you to send trackable, they advise it for selling protection but it is not compulsory.
Paypal NEVER expect you to use a rival money transfer service eg Moneygram or Western Union etc.
Delete any emails and ignore the scammers.


Advice is voluntary.
Kudos / Solution appreciated.
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