So how do we actually get protected from Fraud

[Wolivere702]

Okay so a site looked legit, I placed an order. Nothing happened, the 4 pay was set up. Then I noticed the site was showing up multiple times now with slight changes to the address.

A request to the site's help to find out what's going on with my order bounced back as an unknown domain. The Help link points to a nonexistent domain.

I open up a complaint with Paypal.. eventually, after 2 weeks the seller sends a tracking number. Amazingly the tracking number delivery date is set to the exact day for the final payment on 4 pay.

And in the mail instead of a painting comes a postcard.

Paypal closes the dispute as satisfied in favor of the seller. 

The next day the site vanishes.. and I am out my cash, and cant dispute as paypal has closed it as they accepted.. the tracking number as proof.

How is this service?

[kernowlass]

@Wolivere702 

Contact customer services and request that they open a second dispute for item received but not as described.

Contact options for Paypal are accessed by clicking help/contact bottom left of Paypal pages...

1. Paypal phones are slowly re-opening and increasing in numbers (you can use the guest option if you can't log in).
2. Live chat is also randomly available.
3. You can send them a message, during business hours you may also be able to message whilst logged out.
Or
4. Have you considered contacting Customer Service via Facebook or Twitter?
You can send them a personal message from their Facebook or Twitter pages.
It's: https://www.facebook.com/PayPal and @AskPayPal for Twitter.