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Scam or not?

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Scam or not?

So husband and I are trying to sell a motorcycle. Guy out the blue texts husband hey you got PayPal or zelle? I'm out of town and want the bike and if it's in good condition I'll have a professional courier come get it. Now it is a Harley so it's possible. But the guy doesn't give name doesn't want any other pictures husband offers video of it running etc. Nothing he just requests PayPal email. Well at first I send his mobile number the larger amount request nothing it's still pending. Then we give him 30min later my email associated with PayPal. I get this whacky email that's for a larger amount like $700 and something over for us to send to courier that PayPal supposedly requires us to send to courier through zelle. Well first off I don't have Zell and don't plan on getting it. Second shouldn't he send the fees. Third there is nothing pending in my PayPal account although this email says once we send this money then the funds will be released to us. Oh and btw the man of few words before now is texting every 30 seconds. What to do?
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Re: Scam or not?




They encourage you to accept a direct Paypal payment.
No funds or activity of the transaction shows in your Paypal account and any emails may go into your junk/spam folders.

They don't quibble on cost and may also say they can't view the item as they are disabled or working abroad or sending as a gift to a family member but they will arrange a shipping agent or courier to collect it.

You will get/got a "fake" email that looks as though it is from isn't because they don't have a Paypal account and have no intention of paying you.
It will say the buyer has paid won't have been paid.

The fake paypal email will tell you that the buyer has paid for the item + shipping costs but you must send those shipping costs to the courier/ shipping agent via another payment processor than Paypal or by providing some vouchers or tokens before the funds are released to you.
They are not interested in the vehicle, they just want that couriers/shipping funds and you will never see money in your paypal balance.


Once you have become a victim they may try again with more fake Paypal emails with other reasons that you must send them a payment for custom fees / to verify, expand or upgrade an account.

Paypal NEVER tell you to send an item before the payment is showing in your paypal account.
Paypal NEVER expect you to use a rival money transfer service eg Moneygram, Western Union, Bank Transfer, Zelle or any sort of gift token or voucher.
There is no seller protection on paypal for any type of motor vehicle.

Delete any emails and ignore the scammers.

Advice is voluntary.
Kudos / Solution appreciated.