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Andrea174
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I would like to join a class action suit against PayPal for holding $100 way in excess of 120 days , since February 6, 2020. also contest a photograph Requirement- making it ripe for identity theft. I would mail one if kept secure in corporate headquarters; however, I do not trust Paypal and am willing to forfeit $100 to close account permanently.

No bank or investment house requires an uploaded photo. I want my credit card information deleted and then close account. Paypal, once a convenient site has become fraudulent in my opinion. Andrea <removed>, Esq.,Retired, Pro Se

soonerbroad
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Well, after researching the history of Paypal and these types of scams, it is fairly clear that Paypal is not only making money of these type of scams, but most likely are actually running these scams and using these bogus companies as front to mask their involvement. If you look at Paypals Buy Protection and refund policies, alone with their Seller Protection and the fees associated with using PayPal as a seller, you can clearly see how Paypal is using this and other scams as a revenue generating vehicle that is bilting untold millions from their customers that their online commerce business is setup to protect.    Ebay and  Paypal are own by the same company, and has the identical "Buyer/Seller Protection Policies. With Amazon, AliExpress cutting into Ebay's business  while Apple Pay, Google Pay, Square and other smashing Paypal's business it looks that both companies are turning to fronting "scams" as a business model to generate  part of their companies revenue. As the very same "scams" are becoming common on Ebay. I've have bought stuff from Ebay for 15+ years and not 1 single time had I ever bought that was a scam. That was until Dec. That’s when you’ll notice numerous ads for the same product from different companies all at once.   All these "scams" seem to have a few things in common that once you know what to look for makes them fairly easy to spot. (Until they change things up). 1st. is the item for sell is will be under $50 US. This price will be a "good deal" and the normal price of the same item would be double if not more. 2nd is the Company/website contact information is only a email address. No customer service number. And no company address listed. 3rd. Free shipping  which just makes the deal look that much better. 4th. You will not receive an email with any tracking information useable. Their tracking will consist of saying “in process” or “ in transit” with no change for months. Then if that item arrives,it will not be anything close to what you order and is worthless. All these work into PayPal/Ebay business model on how to make money upfront and on the backside off scams they front. With the item cost below $50 they have figured out that large percentage of the customers who get scammed will decided it's not worth the hassle after reading all the hoops you have to go though to get a refund using their Buyer Protection.  So say if that's 70%  of the people that got scammed, their money lost is free money to PayPal /Ebay who front these scams. So the other 30% who open a case to try to get a refund, the first reply from Paypal/Ebay will be to offer you less than 50% and you don't have to ship the junk item you received back.  Again whatever percentage accepts that is giving PayPal/Ebay free money as they only have to refund less than half of the money that they scammed you out of in the first place. And to the rest who refuse the less than 50% refund will now be offer a 100% refund only after you return the item to some place in China and you must pay for the shipping . Once you provide a tracking number (something you never got from seller) You money will be refunded in 5-30 business days. But here's the catch. They shipping will be $35-$45 to return a item that you paid under $50 dollars for. So PayPal/Ebay are counting on you refusing to pay to ship the item back. Once you do that, they will close the case and will not issue a refund. At this point its' straight 100% profit for them and they never spend a dime to make untold millions...... This shows what PayPal is about now .
lqm7102
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SO IS THEIR A OPEN CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST PAYPAL OR ARE WE JUST TALKING?

soonerbroad
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Far as I know, everyone is waiting fir an interested attorney to come forward. There are s lot of angry, cheated people.
yaeerlev
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Where can I join this class action lawsuit.  Paypal is putting up a phony protection program.  I plan to consult with a lawyer. 

soonerbroad
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I think everyone is waiting to find someone to move forward. PayPal and associated companys are very powerful.
Hellocorey
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Although my purchases were not thru Ebay.. they came from Facebook which directed me to pay thru paypal..  I have been trying since March to settle my cases .. yes I have 3 they denied although I have plenty of proof Paypals friends the criminals have fraudulently gained tracking numbers that never even belonged to them( the criminals) one tracking number is assigned to Amazon.  So why do I have to sit back and let the criminal take charge .... everyday for over 100 days that's right Everyday I have called at least 7 times and messaged just as much I have NEVER spoke to anyone on the phone well I cant say that I called the merchant line and guess what they answered.. I have spent dozens and dozens of hours to get no where. I will also join in on a class action suit.. I am not a criminal I am a valued customer ..

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joegold100
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I'm also been in dispute with PayPal over this same scam https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Disputes-and-Limitations/Ordered-items-at-FRAUD-SCAM-WEBSITE-can... . I've provided a ridiculous amount of evidence to PayPal about this scam and PayPal hears me but they are not listening... PayPal Support - " I truly apologize for the delayed response and appreciate your patience while we work through our messages. I'm sorry to hear the order you received wasn't as described and the return shipping costs are expensive. Just like in-store purchases, the items must be returned by the buyer to receive a refund from the seller."  It's not like a ordered a cotton shirt and received a Spandex shirt and wanted to return it for a refund. I ordered a greenhouse and received a paper mask. This is insane. There are hundreds of people on several different community threads reporting this same problem all the way back to January 2020. PayPal was fully aware of what is going on.

Here is they point that  I believe many of you are missing. PayPal is not letting this continue for a few dollars in transaction fees. The reason they don't want to refund the money is because the seller knew exactly how to work the PayPal dispute process which has also been exploited even further because of the Covid crisis. Once the seller provided the tracking number and proved that an item (not they item you ordered) was delivered, PayPal releases the sellers funds.
So, if PayPal was to rule the dispute in our favor they would not be able to recover the funds from the seller, thus it comes out of PayPal's pocket. With hundreds, possibly thousands of buyers scammed, PayPal would have a big loss which they are obviously not willing to take.

The seller also used the US Postal Service to send the "wrong item". It is clear from the amount of people who are listed as having this problem, that his intentions were to commit fraud from the start. I believe using the US Postal Service to aid in mail order fraud is a felony.

Make sure you all file IC3 reports with the FBI as I was instructed to do by PayPal and several other community members. PayPal's automated dispute system doesn't recognize this as fraud until you file. The FBI is not going to take notice and review PayPal's responses and processes unless they get enough of these reports. Here is the link to file: https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

 

I have been with PayPal since 1998 and with over 3,200 transactions in that time period I have never had a dispute filed on me, nor have I ever filed dispute on another seller. I have 3 eBay accounts that use PayPal, and 8 different business that use PayPal as the merchant processor.
If I don't get my money refunded to me, PayPal will lose a lot more than the money with all the merchant fees if I switch all of them to Stripe or Square.

 

Please do the right thing PayPal.

kernowlass
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@joegold100 

@ubasport 

@Hellocorey 

@soonerbroad 

@yaeerlev 

 

If you are rich then you can take on paypals lawyers and their legally agreed (in every country) user agreement individually if you like.

But you can't do a class action lawsuit anymore, read the link.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/10/17/3511792/paypal-class-action-suit-ban


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klc777
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https://www.classlawgroup.com/paypal/

 

Found the above after quick search yesterday.  I don't know what the outcome was for the lawsuit filed, but will check into it as soon as time allows this coming week.