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I got repaid eventually. I was told to return my shoddy goods and they sent me a form for me to fill in with a tracking number and postal company. There was space at the bottom to put a message in. Which I did! (I declined to return as postage was more than I had paid for the goods) About a week or so later the case was closed in my favour. I wish you luck.
anyone having trouble with PayPal if the money came from your bank open a dispute with them . The bank are a lot more helpful 🙂
It seems like PayPal became Scam or Scammers Partner!
I was actually preparing the ship his junks cheap way. They came in trash bin nylon. package was smashed. How ever I should be sending with the same ship package But I have arranged box. It became 2100 gr. There is limit below 2 kg and above for the economic post. I can't believe I will send this junks to expect refund! But I will do it!
By the way I have recorded the whole story in youtube : <removed>
I finally got my money bank via the bank, I gathered all the evidence I had found, everything from screengrabs of the real product they were promoting, the emails where I cancelled four hours after placing the order, because I recognised the company from a prior bad experience when they confirmed the order, their replies acknowledging the cancellation, and three days later saying "sorry its been sent, you paid", their phoney returns policy page, the closed down website pages after the sale, the eight or so sister pages selling the exact same products, different page names but same email address, the multiple shipping companies sending different tracking numbers, all wrong, WanBexpress shipping logs showing the order wasn't even actioned for 7 days after I cancelled, I showed that the fake address didn't exist in reality, unfortunately for them, they picked a guy that knows his way around a map and google, and google maps came back with " Computer says no "
I have actually tracked the real address, its in Fengxing Plaza A, which is a world away from where they claim to be, I had proof via DHL and UPS shipping quote pages that they couldn't find the supplied address, I had pictures of the fake items they sent, I had a statement from an optician saying they were fake, dangerous, and worth no more than the plastic bags they came in.
I had the fake items before I was to send them to trading standards (that are now winging their way to them), and the routes they are using to get them into the country, I had an action fraud incident number, and the full printout of the consumer rights act 2015 with no less than 18 highlighted sections that the seller had breached.
So I march into my bank, we sit down at opposite ends of a long table, pull the bag filled with pages of evidence (around 30 pages) start the case, and as soon as they heard the name Jinzhou, I was asked to supply everything I had there and then, and asked to wait, they brought in a cup of coffee for me, and 30 minutes later, they said the money would be refunded at the end of the day.
The banks are aware of Jinzhou, and what they are doing, get everything together, and let them deal with them, thats what they get paid to do, paypal flatly have no interest in protecting customers or they would have dealt with Jinzhou far faster instead of siding with them, ... when thousands complain, and ask for help, they shoot most down, even when you have proven irrefutable evidence.
I'm done with paypal, this was an open and shut case, thousands scammed, paypal didn't protect us in the face of mountains of evidence from thousands of victims.
Moreover, Jinzhou did the dirty regarding my personal data, I am getting spam emails way up and beyond what would be classed as normal, and yesterday, I started getting cold calls on my phone, a chinese woman saying something ull.com and hanging up, the number is listed to London but all the numbers have been block purchased to a chinese conglomerate
The full number that phoned me was actually listed on the google listing (blurred out)
In the last 8 years, I have only had one other cold call, and that was 7 years ago, I cannot fathom how they got my number, but its far too much of a co-incidence that I get scammed by a chinese group, and then I start getting cold calls from a chinese owned number.
I have reported the call to my carrier, and they don't tolerate scammers either.
Don't let them get away with your money, fight them, get your bank to help, the banks are aware and assisting customers, there are too many people being scammed at once for them not to notice, shame that another entity didn't...
Well today I received an interesting email....
First ever phishing attempt involving paypal, spotted it straight away, do these idiots think I'm stupid...
Then, this afternoon, things get a little more concerning, I get a call from verizon in california, they have put a temporary managed block in place on my email due to "a lot" of brute force attempts to gain access to my email...basically, I have to receive and enter a code via phone call every time I want to access my email address.
really?... the average person has nothing of interest in their email client, so that rules out cyber espionage, I think this getting rather out of hand and is a targetted response to recent events, and I'm going to escalate this with action fraud, I had a happy corner of anonymonity in my parts of the intarweb, and these criminals are pushing the wrong guy.
My guess, they are reading these boards, seeing messages, and its not hard to put things together, I have outted their little one room outfit in Fengxing Plaza A, and they are also unable to use shopify trial anymore, well right now here is my message to them...
Facebook and Instagram are next boyo's, you prodded the wrong tiger...
OK, I'm now being actively censored by paypal, I post that certain individuals attempted to phish me, paypal remove the picture of the email...despite there being absolutely no identifying data of me or anyone else (paypal justification claim)
Well I'm sorry guys, the only way to fix this, is with your feet, I've cancelled my debit card, got a new one, paypal addresses is now getting put into my routers hosts file, and every computer I own hosts file never to be visited or used by me again.
I'm now going through all the services I use, Steam, Origin, Epic Games, just to name a few and will be using alternative payment arrangements.
Paypal is done for me, when it protects the criminals....it becomes criminal itself.