China Bait and Switch Scam
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Happy New Year All
After seeing an advertisement on internet for Twisted Car (Christmas Offer| Gesture sensing Stunt Remote Control Car, I thought I would have a look. The controls where worn on hand and activated the car moving them forward back and side to side doing crazy stuff. I purchased the cars and paid for shipping from the Shaco Store according to the invoice -SKU: HX1900162KCCH, as I felt assured that the seller was reputable seeing that PayPal was attached as a payment method. The seller’s info from PayPal is Swopply Technology Co.,Ltd and in another place the name kassadin.store appears.
When the cars finally arrived, they were not even close to what was advertised. I contacted PayPal and launched a claim in the resolution center. Emails start back and forth with PayPal as the go between. The seller agreed to take back the items and I was instructed by PayPal to ship items back and get a tracking number and receipt for return shipment, the parcel needed to be back by a certain date approx. 15 days, the shipping out too longer than that. I tried using our account at work to ship with other services but I will only post Canada Post’s charges of $96.37, as they were the most reasonable. This amount to return items that cost $34.97. PayPal did offer to help out with return shipping with an offer of $30.00. Do the math? If I ship back the items and even get my money back, PayPal kicks in 30 bucks, it would still have cost me an additional $31.40 and I end up with nothing but heartache… HMMM…. now it is making sense. What a scam. Thinking about this if 10,000 people like me purchased these items and tried (stressed tried) to return them, most that have a brain would just forget about it and take the lost. I sent PayPal a message stating I was not going to provide a tracking number and someone from PayPal may want to call me about this. Long story short , I called them, went through how things went down between the seller and myself and was told that PayPal does not Vet (investigate) the seller that any scam artist can set up shop (not quite the language) there you have it this seller probably just made $349,700.00 for what likely cost the a quarter of that amount after looking at the items they sent instead of what was ordered., clear profit $262,275.00. Thinking I may need to move to china and start up a business…. Don’t know what do you think. Additionally, I made another purchase 3 or 4 days later, ☹ oH oH the same seller, when that item arrived, BINGO same thing not what was ordered, same run around, send item back, tracking number, by a certain date. Another call to the poor person at PayPal who patiently listening to me harp away, and try as they may cannot really do anything other than tag the issue and bring it to the attention of his/her superior. All to which I as the buyer will never be informed of what happens to the seller when things like this go on. BEWARE FRIENDS DON’T BUY FROM CHINA would be my suggestion.
As for PayPal, I fully understand that they have done all they can to return things to square one for me, I still feel the company has a lot to offer for sellers and buyers alike. I agree there is really nothing they can do about dishonest seller’s wishing to bait and switch items I hopes that buyer will not spend more good money to recoup bad. I do feel that PayPal could be more open with the PayPal community as a whole and publish what happens to wayward sellers that obviously don’t give a hoot about ethics. So buyers like myself can check to see if a seller is legit or not before a purchase is made… Open to your thoughts.
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I would assume that anything on Facebook advertisements is suspect. proceed at your own risk. The local market place seems good enough, as you can at least check out if the ad is real y speaking with the person,, but I would never do anything with another from Facebook unless you can pick it up in person. I not sure if Facebook charges to allow someone to post an ad, but probably.
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Buyer beware I guess. I would like PayPal to require an invoice from the seller to the buyer, with a clear picture (2" x 3" or larger) of the item being sold with SKU number attached, SKU number on invoice, date and transaction Id. This information is easily stored and could be used by PayPal to identify a bait and switch (con) artist or company.
If the item received does not match the extract SKU number that is affixed to the item, or the photo provided to the buyer and PayPal on invoice, then this would be reasonable cause for PayPal to reverse the transaction in the favor of the buyer without the need of it costing more money to have the junk bait and switch item returned.
The penalty then would be born by the one perpetuating the scam, and PayPal could go back to offering protection to both parties. in these cases by trying to do what PayPal thinks is right and the bots working away at doing nothing reasonable, leaves the buyer in a vulnerable position.
One last thing PayPal, respond to your customers.
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PayPal should be held responsible for these fraudulent transactions by not allowing them to use Paypal as payment until the correct item is received by the buyer. What good is the Protection Plan when buyers are getting ripped off.
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I finally received a refund for the item but at the cost of 61 shipping. the shipping was not refunded even though paypal said they would refund the money when they were received. Today they arrived back marked return to sender. Paypal has refused a shipping refund based on the chinese company not receiving the returned product almost 3 months ago. Paypal is no longer a trusted advocate for me. Paypal is as bad as these chinese companies scamming all of us.
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