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TammySnow
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Honestly how many people paid in advance for products and have not received them.

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Teito23
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Too many to count I am going through a bunch of other community posts and it's just increasing by the day while people that dispute it on paypal lose the cases. 

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PayPal_Donna
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Hi TammySnow,

 

Welcome to the PayPal community and thank you for your post.

 

We have a Buyer Protection policy in place you can avail of if you have not received what you paid for.

 

You will find more details here.

 

-Donna

 

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Teito23
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I have already gone through all that it didn't help me at all cause they still closed the case in the sellers favor the moment they gave tracking information. I never even received my item someone else that isn't me did. It wasn't even to my address or even under my name and even after they told me they noted all of this they let the seller take my money. On top of that the sellers refused to refund me or close that account or to even work with me. So tell me how can I even trust to be protected under buyer protection if this is the sorta results I am gonna get? 

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kernowlass
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@Teito23 

 

 

Your advice just tells other posters not to bother opening disputes and trying to get a refund when in fact they may well get a refund by following the procedures.

Sounds like just because you didn't get a refund you don't want others to try and be successful as all your posts are telling them not to bother.

Just because you didn't get a refund, does not mean thousands of others haven't and been posting back to say they have been refunded.

 
Chinese Web Sites or on Social Media ads easy to spot (once you know the below signs) so buyer beware.

Paypal would not be able to check every individual seller / merchant / company in over 200 countries worldwide that adds paypal to their website to accept payments.

So they give you 'some' buyer protection but the onus is on you to risk assess your transactions.

They do stop bad companies from using Paypal when enough claims start rolling in.
However as they are in China (mostly) then its easy for them to just start over with a new name, so stopping them does not really do anything.

The best thing is to not buy from them in the first place, to recognise them -

1. No return address on the returns policy. The site will look as if its in your country (where they despatch goods from) but they will ask for returns to go back to China (returns depot) at a shipping cost often more than the item is worth.
2. No contact telephone number. if you click on contact the most you will get is webmail or an email address.
3. Rarely company address information.
4. Great pictures of items at bargain prices that turn out to be tat.
5. Fake reviews.
6. Google and you can often see previous company names as they change them once enough claims roll in and Paypal stop them using their services and start over.
7. Send fake tracking numbers to win item non receipt of item claims.

 

DID YOU DO THIS?


APPEAL

To submit an appeal on the dispute that was closed, PayPal asks that you obtain a detailed report from the shipper/courier (on their letterhead or some other form of official stationary) that includes the address the seller gave them for the shipment. Or one that includes a statement mentioning your address and saying the item was delivered to a different address.
Check tracking in below link to see where it went.
https://www.17track.net/en

When you have that, contact PayPal via phone (log on to your account and click Contact at the bottom of the page, however that may not be an option at the moment due to covid), or via Facebook (send a Private Message to PayPal) or via Twitter (send a Direct Message to @AskPayPal) and say you want to appeal the denial of the dispute based on the shipper saying the item was delivered to a different address. Once it's submitted (you will be provided with directions on how to do that), the dispute will be reviewed further and a determination will be made.

You also have the option to contact your card issuer if you funded your paypal payment that way and see if they will do a chargeback for you.

 


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kernowlass
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@TammySnow 

 

Thousand I would think but many have since had refunds if they selected the correct dispute and provided the correct information and followed up if the dispute was closed for fake tracking etc.


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