Permanent Limiting account after 11 years *without any notice* with vague reasoning

gem3
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Paypal suddenly essentially blocked *permanently* my account because I listed for sale an over the counter vitamin on ebay! Below is the communication and my reply which was dealt with a canned response (if even was read by anyone). I am a loyal customer, very respectful to the regulations since 2006. They could have warned me if something they think is not according to the rules (which even this is debatable as you can read in my reply). But permanent banning of a customer, essentially blocking him out of ebay too with no warning? This is good business practice? Does anyone have experience over this and can help? I am issuing complaints in any organization I can find and share this on facebook, twitter and all the relevant forums. I still can't believe paypal's practice of sudden death with no warning whatsoever and no previous problems of any sort.

 

Already filled complains:

 

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/account/reviews/

https://www.trustlink.org/Review/PayPal-Inc-234018

https://www.pissedconsumer.com/company/paypal/permanent-limiting-account-without-any-notice-over-vag...

http://sanjose.app.bbb.org/complaint/view/549194/c/r3mz64

 

Why no warning???? A loyal customer always adhering to the rules is not good enough? Closing an account without warning for something controversial is not good business practice!

 

My response, followed by paypal's emails

 

Dear Sir or Madame,

 

I in no way intended to violate the policy. ​This listing is for an OTC vitamin (folic acid) that ebay permits as it is mentioned in this link:

 

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/prescriptions.html

 

Prescription and over-the-counter drugs

 

Allowed

Allowed

Most over-the-counter (OTC) products, including:

Allergy medications that don't contain pseudoephedrine

Antacids (see the restriction on non-prescription strength OTC medications below)

Nicotine gums and patches

Pain relievers

Vitamins

 

 

​​This vitamin is otc in Greece. Moreover there are literally hundreds of listings of this vitamin on ebay accepting paypal. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xfolic+acid.TRS0&_n...

 

As a matter of cooperation and compliance in order to sort this matter out I ended the listing altogether awaiting for your reply.

 

I am a loyal, cooperative and (mostly) happy customer since 2006 and permanent banning of my account without any warning for listing an otc vitamin is incomprehensible to me.

 

In PayPal's  Acceptable Use Policy https://www.paypal.com/gr/webapps/mpp/ua/acceptableuse-full it is referring to "prescription drugs" only and only for pre-approval. Nowhere in the user agreement is reads for

 

"prescription drugs that violate applicable laws or industry regulations

or for products that present a risk to consumer safety. PayPal considers

the marketing of a product and may restrict transactions for products

marketed to act like or function the same as a prescription drug. PayPal

also may restrict transactions for recalled drugs, unapproved drugs and

dietary supplements that have been banned by governmental agencies."

 

that you referred to and even if it did I would not consider this vitamin to be such by any  stretch of the imagination.

 

Kindly get back to me asap in order to resolve this matter.

 

Yours Sincerely,

<removed>

 

 

Paypal's initial email

 

Dear xxxxxxxx,

 

We have recently reviewed your PayPal account activity, and determined that

you are in violation of PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy regarding your sales

/ offers of Prescription Drugs such as http://www.ebay.com/sch/xxxx on ebay.com, user ID: xxxxx.

 

As a result, your account has been permanently limited and this cannot be

appealed.

 

 

 

Per the PayPal User Agreement, when we permanently limit an account due to

an Acceptable Use Policy violation, we may hold any available balance in

your PayPal account  for up to 180 days. We will review your account at 30

days from the date of this email and determine if you have any outstanding

disputes or claims.  If there is a balance remaining in your account at

this time, we will review your account every 30 days until either all your

money has been made available to you for withdrawal, or a period of 180

days from the date your account was limited is reached. Please log in to

your PayPal account and verify that your account information is accurate,

as PayPal cannot be held responsible for incorrect information provided by

the account holder.

 

Please remove all references to PayPal from your website/s and/or

auction/s. This includes not only removing PayPal as a payment option, but

also the PayPal logo and PayPal shopping cart.

 

The PayPal User Agreement states that PayPal  reserves the right to limit

an account for any violation of the PayPal User Agreement, including the

Acceptable Use Policy.

 

Under the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used for the sale

of prescription drugs that violate applicable laws or industry regulations

or for products that present a risk to consumer safety. PayPal considers

the marketing of a product and may restrict transactions for products

marketed to act like or function the same as a prescription drug. PayPal

also may restrict transactions for recalled drugs, unapproved drugs and

dietary supplements that have been banned by governmental agencies.

 

You can view the complete PayPal Acceptable Use Policy by clicking the

"Legal" link at the bottom of any PayPal page and clicking "PayPal

Acceptable Use Policy". You can also find some more information on the

PayPal Acceptable Use Policy on our Help Center.

 

We thank you in advance for your cooperation. If you have any questions,

please contact the PayPal Brand Risk Management Department at

xxxxxxxx

 

Sincerely,

Mandy

PayPal, Brand Risk Management

 

Paypal's canned response to my appeal

 

Dear xxxxxxx,

 

Thank you for contacting PayPal with your concern regarding the limitation on your account.

 

We regret to inform you that we cannot overturn the limitation on your account. Due to the violation of PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy, your account has been permanently limited.

 

The PayPal User Agreement states that PayPal, at its sole discretion, reserves the right to limit an account for any violation of the User Agreement, including the Acceptable Use Policy.

 

 

Under the Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used for the sale of prescription drugs that violate applicable laws or industry regulations or for products that present a risk to consumer safety. PayPal considers the marketing of a product and may restrict transactions for products marketed to act like or function the same as a prescription drug. PayPal also may restrict transactions for recalled drugs, unapproved drugs and dietary supplements that have been banned by governmental agencies.

 

If you have any questions, please contact the PayPal Brand Risk Management Department at xxxxxx

 

Sincerely,

Ruslan

PayPal, Brand Risk Management

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Whac-A-Mole
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we are volunteers,not privy to your account or sales record.

youhave to contact Paypal,but it sounds like all of you are banned from using Paypal.

so find a merchant account which works with Ebay gateways to sell on Ebay.

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craiova1979
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of course I also contact Paypal, but they do not answer, 11 days and no answer.

I don't have a problem saying I am wrong, but the one thing I need from PayPal is that at least tell me what I was doing wrong - I have my account limited and I do not know why. Seems fair to you this way of working?

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