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Attempted Scam/Phishing Involving PayPal, Craigslist And Involving At Least Ten Of Us

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The Scam:  I had listed a car for sale on Craigslist for $2,000.  "*name removed*" wanted to buy it via PayPal and said she had deposited $2,800 USD into my PayPal account from her PayPal account.  However, I had to send her "agent" a Western Union money order for $750 before she would transfer her PayPal funds to me... 

 

The Phishing:  I recieved four direct phishing emails from PayPal about the transaction:  "***Your Money Is Safe With PayPal***,"  "Payment Notification from Pay Pal Fund Verification Team,"  "Follow the verification procedures below for a secure trading" and "***You Are Safe And Protected By PayPal Insurance Policy Regarding Shipment***."  All four had her name in them and the web site *email removed*.

 

After reviewing our ten cases, and two from Craigslist, I have developed the following profile about this person:  o She/he is a Marine Biologist, a Marine Engineer, a Petroleum Engineer or a Geologist.  o Consistant use of the small letter "i" instead of the capital letter "I" in all emails.  o Always wanting to buy your items to give to her father or son as a surprise gift.  o She is always at "sea" or on the "Pacific Ocean."  Hence, therefore, she cannot pick up the item herself but has a "driver," "hauler" or "agent" located in Greenville, SC to handle things for her.  o She does not use correct English sentence structure.  I don't think think she is an American Citizen.  In fact, she may not even be located in the U.S.  o You have to send the Western Union "moneytransfer" to her agent first.  o Then you have to email her the MTCN number with your name and address on it to the *email removed* before she will PayPal to transfer the money to you.  o You have to mail your Western Union money order to *name and address removed*, Greenville, SC, 29615, United States.  No telephone number shown. (There is an *name removed* located at *address removed* with an unlisted phone number, but I don't know if they are one and the same.  I have to send this guy a letter you know...)

 

I hope this information is useful to all of you.  Who knows how many other PayPal members she has tried to scam.  I plan on filing a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) and the FBI regarding this matter.  I'm a 69 yr-old disabled vet, an ex-cop and have a Masters Degree in Public Administration.  I would greatly appreciate your help investigating this scam.  You can contact me at *email removed*.

 

edit by mod: Had to remove email addresses and personal contact information. Please review Forum Decorum for more information.  Thanks for the op for posting this experience to help others avoid this scam.  Always remember to check your PayPal account for funds as email can never be fully trusted to have accurate information.

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Re: Attempted Scam/Phishing Involving PayPal, Craigslist And Involving At Least Ten Of Us

Ouch! I hate to hear that! What a loss because some low life punk..

I hope you recover from your losses, I'll say a little prayer! And thank you for serving our Country! God Bless.

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Thank you so much for posting this!!!  We actually had this outfit contact us in the last couple hours.  Thank you so so much!  I am sorry this happen to you.

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I'm very pleased that my post on the Help Forum prevented you from falling victim to this very nasty scam.  Do look at my three posts and give me your opinion on my input.  Then I would like you to file a compliant about PayPal's lack of action to deal with these jerks.  Thank you.    Jerry.

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Thank you all for replying to my post as noted above.  I need to clarify that they "tried" to scam me.  They did not get one dime out of me.  As soon as I saw the words "Western Union," I knew it was a scam.  I used to teach college criminal justice classes which included information on scams, phishing and fraud.  I'm International know for my research on certain topics.  And PayPal frustrates me because you cannot contact me directly on this quite serious problem.  Therefore, you will have to correspond with me via this site. 

 

I WILL NOT violate PayPal rules regarding emails!  However, they have to deal with hundreds of problems from around the world which doesn't allow them much time to deal with our minor little problem.  They told me that, "We are investigating and working on stopping stopping the fraud" in a "boilerplate" email to me.  I would almost bet that there are many more of you that have been contacted by the she/he scam person. over this past year.  Have any of you received an email from PayPal that told you the results of their investigation of your case?  I think not.  They need to group all of us together so our cases can be presented to the proper auththorities which will get their attention amongst the multiple cases they have to deal with daily.

 

Pardon me PayPal, but the addess shown on all of my emails from the "agent"  who was supposed to get my Western Union money order for $750, and the direct phishing emails from you, should NOT be editied out because they are now legally considered "public knowledge" information!  Hello Erik Thompson at 335 Pelham Road, Greenville Rd., Greenville, SC, 29615, United States.  That is very likely an invaild name for that address but I'm going to send him a letter anyway, along with the other guy of the same name who lives right up the road from him.  If he is a good man, then he is going to get really upset that some "agent"  messed with his name. 

 

I'm not going to let those rotten people get away with trying to take our hard earned money away from us if I can help it.  I have been a Planning and Research Advisor to fourteen criminal justices in one county, a U.S. Department of Justice Consultant to several police agencies around the U.S., a Certified Police Instructor and a former Deputy Sheriff on the admistrative staff.  Perhaps in my old age, I can help PayPal deal with this issue for all of us. 

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Is this a scam? I can't tell.

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So I am sell my computer via craigslist and I got this email after a few exchanges:

 

"I have made the payment and am sure paypal have contact you with the confirmation of the payment...i will like you to check your paypal email.......i also paid extra money for shipping. i will like you to get the item ship via Post office (Register Mail or USPS) and I hope i can count on you?
 
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Get Back to me as soon as you get the item ship...and don't forget to get back to paypal with the shipment tracking number..Kindly end the item on craiglist

Awaiting to hear from you soon."

 

The thing is the payment was verified via paypal but still... its going to AFRICA. Let me know what you think.

 

Thanks

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JGreen2005- That is most definitely a scam and I hope you haven't sent anything out.  I'm moving this post into a thread with many other examples, so I think after reading a couple you'll be able to see a pattern Smiley Happy

 

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Uh Andy, are we talking about me?  I'm <name removed>, also known as WeLieInsanely.  Who is JGreen2005?  Are you referring to my two posts on the Community Help Forum entiled "Attempted Scam/Phishing Involving PayPal, Craigslist And Involving At Least Ten Of Us?"  If so, I have news for you.  The party that tried to scam me last month regarding my car ad on Craigslist for a 1976 Chrysler Cordoba for $2,000 just did it again! 

 

At 2:00am this morning I renewed my ad for a price of $1,600.  Within two minutes, I recieved an emai which started with the same exact message that I got last month!  They are either completely dumb and stupid, or I suspect they have a software program that tracts ads on Craigslist.  And of course she said we would use PayPal as the transaction facilitator...

 

I'm going to place this new event on the Help Forum.  By the way, did you happen to notice that I was thanked by one of our members for alerting them about this scam?  They had just been approached by that those jerks just two hours before they read my post. 

 

PayPal needs to do something serious about this scam and PayPal phishing abuse.  And you guys have told me twice that you are investigating my input to Snoof but I have as yet recivied any email showing the results of your efforts!  And none of our other members who posted a compliant on the exact same topic have heard nothing either.  Your boilerplate response doesn't even come close to addressing the problem here.  Come on Andy, lets see some positive and serious action on the part PayPal please. 

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Re: Is this a scam? I can't tell.

WeLieInsanely- No...I was referring to JGreen2005.  Another member of this community who posted about a similar issue.

 

As far as your concerns, I agree.  Everyone at PayPal would love for people to stop using our name to try and defraud hard working individuals.  But of course it's somewhat hard to stop someone using your name fraudulently when you don't know who they really are, they don't have a PayPal account for us to shut down, and in most cases don't live within any country that we could easily prosecute in.  Yet we still work with law enforcement to try and track down these individuals and any emails that are sent to spoof@paypal.com help.

 

Finally, I'm glad that a member thanked you for telling your story and stopping them from making a large mistake.  That's the point of the Community Help Forums.  And that's kinda the point of this thread in particular.  Meshing all of these examples of fraudulent emails and stories should hopefully make it easier for people to find this type of information before they're out their goods.

 

Andy

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money transfer with western union

i have a question about the transaction me and the buyer have.the buyer is out on the ocean on a ship working and is using paypal to buy what i have for sell he transfer funds over to paypal but his shipping agent does'nt use paypal only western union.so he say's that he doe'snt have a credit card with him to use western union.so he wanted me to help him being i'm on the main land.and wanted me pay westen union 650.00 and transfer it to his shipping agent.well paypal has all the funds in a secure account till they get verifiation of the money transfer.then they'll release the funds well the funds that he had put in paypal included the funds for the wire tranfer and i don't have the funds to do it out of my pocket so i would like to know what we can do to resolve this problem thank you michael henderson
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